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[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 96 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Zero respect for people who "sympathize" with Palestinians, but who instantly condemns fighting back against their occupation.

Are Palestinians meant to just sit there and die slowly while we feel sorry for them?

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there were two reigns of terror but liberals ignore one of them every time

[–] NPa@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

![picard-annoyed](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/195d44e1-caa1-4e7e-a7ec-34e8de923948.png "emoji picard-annoyed") There are TWO reigns of terror!

[–] Magician@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

"Liberals don't believe in politics anymore, only in bearing witness to suffering."

[–] GriffithDidNothingWrong@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Can the hungry go on a hunger strike? Non-violence is a piece of theatre. You need an audience. What can you do when you have no audience? People have the right to resist annihilation"

Arundhati Roy

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Damn that's good

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

MLK Birmingham Jail letter

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The purpose of Qassam rockets isn’t to inflict casualties- it is to disrupt normal everyday routine, which Israel has been doing to Gaza for 75 years.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They rarely kill anyone. But they do cause Iron Dome to fire very expensive counter-missiles.

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Given the limited materiel that Hamas has, if their primary objective was to “kill Jews” firing a large number of small, poorly aimed rockets vaguely Northeastward is an incredibly inefficient way of doing it.

[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

but my ![us-foreign-policy](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/7aaf9444-94ef-4e1e-ba7e-4c53615c92e6.png "emoji us-foreign-policy") says it's terrorism

[–] eXAt@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Stealing a post from the trueanon subreddit: “Gaza is both morally and conceptually the same as the Warsaw Ghetto”

[–] macerated_baby_presidents@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I support the Palestinian armed struggle. However does a UN resolution mean anything? I know that in US politics, resolutions are just symbolic and don't carry force of law.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

General Assembly resolutions are helpful signposts of international law but not a binding source of international law. For something to be a point of customary international law, it needs to have jus cogens and state practice. In simple terms, countries need to believe that it is law and act accordingly.

GA resolutions are useful as statements of jus cogens (belief that law exists) but not necessarily determinative.

None of this is relevant to your question though, since the US does not abide by international law.

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

When you hear about “international law” it’s essentially just UN resolutions and treaties

[–] ahshidahfuck@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

me when rules-based international order

[–] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Starve the fascist settlers for blood and soil and watch as they begin to cannibalize one another.

[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Well aktually

If we're talking about international law it's worth noting that an illegal war still results in a legal occupation which is actually a good thing otherwise international law about how countries can treat civilians wouldn't apply to the occupation

[–] tra@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Armed resistance is one thing, massacring civilians is another.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 80 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

I hope they eat shit and die.

[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

Holy fuck that image is the purest of rage fuel. Would set fire to that house while occupants asleep/10

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 70 points 1 year ago

I am glad you agree ! its an important moral Issue.

Hopefully the appartheits regime thats denies the natives every right to their land and citizenship will finally learn that " you do unto others as you want others do unto you "

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes, israel shouldn't massacre civilians.

[–] tra@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nor should the Palestinians....

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

don't put civilians at the front lines of your settler project

[–] tra@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't put anybody anywhere, I was born into this shit just like the Palestinians.

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

bet you can leave unlike the Palestinians though

[–] tra@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lol colonizer got banned

eat shit

[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

if your government kills a palestinian to give their home to you and you happily accept it, I won't be crying when the other palestinians come to kill you. but not prefering this happens

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

I agree, hence why this is a necessary step to stop Israeli terror bombings

[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

if ~~Russian soldiers~~ settlers don't want to die, they can just go home

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. The zionist entity should stop massacring civilians. They should also keep their own civilians safe by not putting them on other people's land where they are subject to forceful removal.

[–] princeofsin@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Exactly! Israel needs to stop killing and oppressing the Palestinians

[–] Redcedar@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago

Your sentiment is right, but your logic falls short. How would you describe what Israel is doing to Palestinian civilians, and also does that mean if a nation invaded another sovereign nation, they can say they’re not military, they’re civilians and therefore you cannot resist? Help me understand your perspective.

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Which side is doing that again?

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Palestine is doing the former and the Israeli response as always is the latter

[–] tra@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Look, all of you. I am by no means legitimizing Israel's actions in Gaza nor the west bank, they are criminal and atrocious. But at the same time, murdering and raping civilians is not armed resistance. Two things can coexist, Both sides can be wrong.

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

maybe they'd be more civil and polite if they weren't the victims of a generation long genocide

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe if the Jews in Europe hadn't done the Warsaw Uprising, things would have gone better for them!

[–] Mylemmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes but targeting civilians... Not the same

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

i also think they need better rockets , but without the Blockade lifted thats not possible sadly. israel does not allow it ... Its helps the Israelie narrative i think , thats why they dont give Hamas precision bombs..

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the IDF has been known to false flag as palestinian resistance and kill israeli citizens in order to stir up even more hatred of palestinians. also stop defending settler colonialism with your tiresome and algorithmic both-sidesism that you doubtless apply to every issue without the slightest analysis.

[–] makotech222@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

they're not 'civilians', they're settlers.