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U.S. President Joe Biden plans to announce on Wednesday that his administration has approved an additional $9 billion in student debt relief for 125,000 borrowers, the White House said.

Biden has said he will pursue new measures to provide student loan relief to Americans after the Supreme Court blocked his plan to cancel hundreds of billions of dollars in debt.

The president's announcement, planned for 1 p.m. EDT at the White House, will bring the total approved debt cancellation by the Biden administration to $127 billion for nearly 3.6 million Americans, the White House said.

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[–] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just cap the interest rate, my man. That would solve the entire problem.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just cap the interest rate

at zero. If the loan is risk free it shouldn't be profitable, to do anything else is to funnel public money into the banks.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At 0% interest, no bank would offer loans, because it would literally just be them losing money managing loans they make nothing from.

[–] jadegear@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Zero percent and govt covers operating costs with a stipend per loan. Granted figuring out the rate to pay would be a task, and keeping that from being a gouge itself... but better than passing it along to borrowers.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah if you give them a way to turn some sort of profit I think this idea could have some legs. Even something small like OP costs plus a flat thousand or so per loan processed could still keep the game running.

Loan values would still keep going up, but the price would be much more understandable to those taking them out.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

IMHO, college tuition and student loans should be handled the way that the healthcare marketplace of the ACA should've been handled: less carrot, more stick.

To the banks/insurance companies:

"If you want to continue to do business with the American public, you must offer competitively priced insurance packages/low or zero interest loans for education on a government run portal. If you don't serve the public in this way, you'll be prohibited from accessing the American people as a market for your for-profit business."

Honestly, the American Consumer Is the greatest driver of global economic growth and domestic economic stability in the world, and the American government's single most valuable economic asset. That the government chooses, through its policy decisions to exploit and abuse this asset rather than protect it, grow it, and prosper alongside it speaks to who's really calling the shots.

Sure, it would piss off the hard-line "free market" advocates, but small businesses pay taxes at a level that impacts their profitability in a way that larger corporations simply don't. I feel it's more than fair to level that playing field by some small degree by locking access to the American consumer behind the condition of having to contribute to the betterment of that market.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That requires legislation and we do not currently have a House that can even consider legislation

[–] J12@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Definitely a good start until we can get education costs under control.

[–] krakenx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Biden had a really good plan. Zero interest as long as you pay at least something, and the payment being as low as $1 with a sliding scale based on income.

It's more fair than just forgiveness to people without loans since the debt isn't eliminated. I'm personally fine with eliminating the debt to have a more educated society, but a lot of people aren't, and that's a good middle ground.

[–] 30mag@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

an additional $9 billion in student debt relief for 125,000 borrowers

$72,000 each

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Finally a bailout that is for the people! You da man Biden!! Yeeyee!!

[–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

At least not bailing out some huge corpos that short-term themselves to bankruptcy.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

What a monster lol

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

The world's on fire.

[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In 2020 I voted against Trump, in 2024 I'm voting for Biden.

[–] nocturne213@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there someone better running for a change?

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We can do better. Dr. Cornel West gets my vote.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You aren't actually serious right?

Cornell has bumbled his micro campaign into irrelevance within weeks of it starting. He's shown no political savvy. He has run for and won no prior office. He'd be a disaster.

Fetterman, or literally any progressive who has won a federal election is a better option.

[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude, if Fetterman ran I'd vote for him in an instant. Doubly so if he took the oath of office in shorts and a hoodie

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You shouldn't, He just entered federal Politics. He needs experience and more importantly he needs to be stabilize his Health before he would even dream of going to the next level.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He just won his election against a TV host bullshit artist.

He's playing the game excellently. He'd be a great candidate.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He just needs more experience. He didn’t debate well either. Oz was just such a dumb candidate.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree to disagree. I think he'd do fine. He'll debate better than Biden. He's got a record of victory against big names.

Thats plenty. We could have elected a boot in 2020 to oust Trump. We basically elected weekend at bernies Biden. But its fine. Whatever it takes.

And honestly, I'd be shocked if there are even debates. If Trump doesn't' show up for primary debates, he doesn't deserve the privileged and airtime that general debates would offer.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s reasonable. I’m not saying I wouldn’t vote for him. I prefer politicians that know how to play the game and will be strategic over giving idealistic speeches that sound great but never go anywhere.

Personally I don’t care about Biden’s age. He’s perfectly fine. If not Harris is there for a reason. We are moving forward. Fetterman has the same mindset actually: https://www.businessinsider.com/john-fetterman-never-understand-progressives-support-joe-biden-2023-9?amp

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pretty clear to me the way the DNC has been buying airtime for Newsom that Biden won't actually be on the ticket in 2024. They're pulling a bait and switch and we're in the bait phase.

I'm promoting Fetterman because I want a real progressive option instead of a force fed Newsom. And as far as playing the game, it is a game of idealistic speeches and sound bytes. It doesn't matter how Machiavellian you are if you can't win Iowa, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania. Fetterman can deliver those states.

I'm all for staying with Biden for the moment. But the second he starts to waiver, in dropping what I'm doing and joining the Fetterman campaign. Newsom will lose if he runs against Trump.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don’t see Biden stepping aside, but I also don’t see more people voting for Trump in 2024 than they did in 2020 with all these court cases. Regardless we will have primaries next spring to figure it out.

Also: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna103907

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Regardless we will have primaries next spring to figure it out.

I hope you are correct on all fronts.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm voting for cornel west because I like what he says, not what people say about him. but the people talking shit on him cement my belief he's the right guy.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This some ignorant ass shit, but I'm not worried.

You don't really strike me as the "actually votes" type.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live in a swing state. you can buy my vote for $20,000

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Bruh why I gotta pay you when I already know you wont get off your ass to do shit.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not true at all, still polling at 5% and will get at least that in the general.

Not surprised someone who thinks a walking corpse like Fetterman is a better option would be so ignorant.

[–] Kcs8v6@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn man, he didn't say you were stupid, he just said he disagreed with you. Don't need to sling mud for a different opinion.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He did insult someone who has likely accomplished 1000x more with his life, Dr. West. So no, I'm not the one slinging mud here.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He did insult someone who has likely accomplished 1000x more with his life, Dr. West.

Bro Dr. Wests students don't even want Dr. West to run.

West is being played the fool right now, and you along for the ride.

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fake as fuck. Ben Dixon is a Democrat grifter you're the one being fooled here.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aight you just a troll.

👍

[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're the troll posting an hour podcast like anyone gave a fuck.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Bruh 😎 it's literally people who have a direct personal relationship with West and who have been some of his most outspoken supporters showing how much of a damn fool West is for this campaign.

Bro you one dumb buggah. You should just keep your 👄 shut.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd happily vote for Dr. Wolff.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

As I'd happily vote Dr. Cornel West, comrade.