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[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh no, they feel the same way with less knowledge.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If anything, they feel more confident, unencumbered by experience or the truth.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

It's tough arguing with someone sitting on top of the Dunning-Kruger curve.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean, in some areas the same facts can lead to reasonable differences in opinion. But in other fields there are objective right/wrong answers

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Booo! Everything must fit neatly in a box.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You're right but I think what they meant is essentially a facet of Dunning-Kreuger.

Most people know enough to know that what they know is a fraction of the surface area of a subject.

But some people know a fraction of it and think they have godly expertise because they can't see the breadth and depth of the field. This is often because they can't even comprehend the complexity as they simply haven't encountered it before.

[–] Starshader@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Objectivity doesn't exist.

Kant, and friends.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Or OP is actually the one with less knowledge.

It feels the ones who know the least tend to be the most arrogant

[–] PorkTaco@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

starts copy and pasting links bookmarked since the 1990s

I want you to know, little one, I take no joy in doing this.

[–] CarterDarter@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

copy pastes an entire perfectly preplanned reply written in a shower 10 years ago

You're not the only one cursed with knowledge

[–] superkret@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Slaps you in the face with new research

Get out of here, old man!

[–] d20bard@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

Simply ignores it while regurgitating my personal opinion as if reiteration and intuition could trump the cold equations themselves 😎😎😎

[–] superkret@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So, what's your subject?
And why is the most popular opinion about it wrong?

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mine is soil. I've got a graduate degree in soil science.

The most popular opinion that is wrong is all of the common ones. Soil science takes 5 science disciplines ( bio, physics, Chem, plant nutrition, and soil development) and rolls them all into one.

Not all tillage is bad

Not all amendments are good or work

There is just such a big gap in common knowledge when it comes to this topic and a lot of 'experts'

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Which soil tastes best?

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Get on Reddit and comment that something other than AMD, Corsair or any other heavily shilled brand makes a better preforming product and you can experience this first-hand.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I don't want to go to reddit, but let me try something:

"I don't want to use linux, windows 11 is just fine"

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Microsoft bad. Unironically.

[–] iesou@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

When that happens I usually get banned for the community

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This is weirdly specific, but I've sadly been in more than one internet "discussion" where a CNC laser cutter is shown in a video, and some knob end pops up in the comments and says "ThAt'S a PlAsMa CuTtEr NoT a LaSer sToOpId".

For about ten years I set up, operated, programmed, maintained, and repaired both plate and tube lasers made by NTC, Mitsubishi, Amada, Trumpf, Han Kwang, Mazak, and BLM. I know enough about industrial lasers to make them boring. I can tell if a shop has a laser just by driving by. A plasma cutter works different, sounds different, and cuts different than a laser, and even someone who knows nothing about either process can see there is a difference.

Brought to you by Anti Vax, MLM huns/wellness coaches, do your own research scientists…

The internet has helped make everyone a fucking expert with no expertise

[–] betahack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

is this the new star wars spinoff?

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Doesn't matter you're still a moron for debating on the internet.

[–] Chickerino@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago

I disagree. It can be a useful learning point for both parties, especially if you have differing opinions and have good points for them.

[–] spez@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago
[–] PeWu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I just assume I don't know anything, and I'm saying what I know, trying to convey my method of thinking about problem. It's mostly for me to check if other side can communicate, and we can exchange useful information