This stopgap bill would absolutely have enough votes to pass in the House and the only reason McCarthy won't bring it to a vote is because the hard liners would motion to vacate the speakership. So the US will be plunged into chaos all because one guy doesn't want to lose his title. Cool democracy.
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The other option would be to cut a deal with the democrats to support him staying speaker just to give a massive middle finger to the traitor caucus.
But that would require a spine and a modicum of political wherewithal. McCarthy has neither, so its going to be interesting to see how this turns out.
Nah, McCarthy is fucked either way because cutting a deal with Democrats will mean getting primaried when he's up for reelection.
That's likely to happen anyway because he put himself in a no win scenario. The hard liners' demands can't make it through the Senate, because even the Senate Republicans aren't onboard with that shit.
So it's cut a deal with the Democrats to keep the government open, and get primaried, or shutdown the government and weaken the party in 2024... And get primaried because his speakership was disastrous.
Gaetz's imaginary door #3 doesn't exist, and McCarthy knows it.
So the US will be plunged into chaos all because one guy doesn’t want to lose his title.
Two guys, actually; it almost happened before with Trump.
Could he put it up for a vote before they manage to remove him and sacrifice himself to save the government for another 2 months? Or could they remove him outright and lock government up for a few weeks guaranteed until enough Republicans get pissed and vote a dem speaker into the chair?
Lol McCarthy doing anything that benefits others at a cost to him. He could have cross the aisle on multiple occasions to strip the lunatic fringiest part of his party of power at a much lower cost to himself. The man has all the spine of a jellyfish.
He isn't going to sacrifice himself because he is a total piece of shit.
Can we just dissolve the council, permanently?
And give the regional governors direct control over their territories?
How would we maintain control?
Fear will keep the locals in line. Fear of progress!
Don't be too proud of this electoral college you've constructed. It is insignificant compared to the power of ignorance.
Couldn't the "moderate" Republicans do the same if he doesn't bring it to a vote though?
I think it's that the hard liners would immediately kick Mccarthy and no one wants to deal with those assholes and run for majority leader. The majority is so slim that those assholes hold a lot of power. Republicans always fall in line. they can't work with democrats. They would immediately be ostracized and lose reelection.
I can't remember the exact number but only 5 to 7 need to flip right?
Are there 5 -7 non crazy GOP house members who aren't up for re-election as they are stepping aside/down anyway?
So the US will be plunged into chaos all because one guy doesn't want to lose his title. Cool democracy.
Wait. I heard this one before. Is this a rerun?
McCarthy probably sees it as an anvil. If he takes it and doesn't cut a deal with Democrats fast, he might spend most of that 6 weeks trying to be reelected Speaker.
I never thought they would avert this shutdown, this is so unprecedented. Never in American history has there been an imminent shutdown raged about for weeks and then suddenly everyone decided that a shutdown is bad and came together to avert a shutdown. Wow, this is amazing. /s