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As nice as that sounds, it's not realistic. Instead, we need to sign tons of trade pacts with other countries. Divert our resources to allies that won't turn on us, even if we need to subsidize some of it in the short term.

Rather than denying the US our resources and markets, it's far better and more concrete to sell what we have to someone else. The US is dependent on our resources to run their economy, but there's plenty of countries that want them as well. If we can refine our base resources and sell them as valued added products, even better.

I don't get whey we sell the US crude when we can refine it all ourselves. Alberta should really be asking why they only have oil workers and not any refiners. Nunavut should be asking why they sell raw diamonds instead of cutting them themselves. We already make and sell high quality steel, aluminum, and uranium. Why not do the same for all the other natural resources we sell? And then sell them to Europe or East Asia instead of the US?

Europe's losing access to many of their raw material producers as well as natural gas. Southeast Asia is both short on energy as well as being the fastest growing new producer and markets. And East Asia will always need reliable energy and potash. And then all this applies to India as well, even if there's some problems with their current government.

As much as I hate Americans, we won’t be able to do that anytime soon

Joining the EU and not letting conservatives anywhere near any level of government is our best action right now

Take a page from China.

Inject a layer of government ownership preventing foreign companies from actually owning any part of Canada.

Do you want Marines patrolling our streets? While I agree with the sentiment, there is a non zero chance that this would qualify Canada into the oil for freedom kinetic négociation program. Our best option is to wait for the inevitable usa civil war to come and hope it doesn't spill too much north.

That's all well and good until the electorate revolts by putting the CPC in charge next cycle. No thank you, if only for the fact it's politically incompatible with anti-fascism. You can't make such broad moves and expect there won't be backlash. Canadians are NOT immune to the same thing happening up here that's happening south of the border.

Cutting off the power we supply to them.

Isolated places like Point Roberts would be screwed, and the rest of the US would feel it too.

Recalling all Canadian hockey players in the American hockey league?

Real talk: is there such a thing as a non-tariff response to what the US is doing that doesn’t amount to, essentially, rolling over while the US to curb stomps us?

There's definitely more drastic responses. Rather than simply imposing a tariff, you could go really extreme and throw up a full blown embargo of US goods. You could put a tax on exports (lumber and energy) equivalent to their tariff on imports, further discouraging trade on those goods because you know the US buyers are working against an inelastic good. You could threaten to withdraw from NAFTA or start entering into friendlier trade agreements with US rivals (start doing more business with China or start selling direct to Cuba or Nicaragua or Venezuela).

Retaliatory tariffs are just seen as equal-and-opposite and therefore a legitimate reprisal. The other stuff would be (not unfairly) seen as an escalation and likely upset more than just the Trump base of support.

This is why I say it's not the American people who are to blame. I wish more people understood this. Canadian society isn't immune from the exact same thing coming up here, especially if the CPC wins and sells us out to the US. Lord knows too many of our population is culturally indoctrinated by US social media platforms.

70% of the US population DID NOT vote for Trump—they were either disillusioned with democracy (abstained) or voted for the least-bad option (Kamala). And of the remaining 30%, many of them don't necessarily like Trump so much as they were duped enough into thinking he was less bad than the alternative.

They haven't been planning blanket tariffs on everything, at least not initially. If you've been following the news, officials specifically said they were trying to avoid tariffs on things that affect average Canadians as much as possible. The starting plan was to target red states and Tesla, last I heard. We've also got a deal with Japan for selling oil and likely Europe will want some too. Then there's turning the lights off via the Hydroelectric supply.

The retaliatory tariffs are being strategically chosen and placed in a way that impacts magas the most.

Because that's what it is going to take to remove American influence. Yes it will hurt Canadians. Yes we have to buckle down and do things that suck once and a while in life.