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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Obviously it's because China and North Korea, being totalitarian dictatorships, have made suicide illegal and punishable by death!

(I have literally met someone who thought that suicide is punishable by death in China. Like if you try to kill yourself and survive they'll finish the job for you.)

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I always find it fascinating how readily people in the west will believe the most patently absurd things about countries they've been told to hate.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And yet... Here you are trusting the numbers coming out of NK 🤷

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

thank you for providing us all with an example of a western racist with low intellect

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yea.. I've seen you around. And I've seen the quality of your contributions. Your response pretty much sums up who you are.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 16 hours ago

I'd be so insulted right now if I had a shred of respect for you.

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

A quick search on google proved really quickly that these numbers are incorrect.

Feel free to look it up yourself.

Edit: op edited the image.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Reason: Mis or disinformation. These numbers are not correct.

Seeing how you found such evidence, feel free to provide it, or it didn’t happen.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

From Wikipedia:

In many countries, suicide rates are underreported due to social stigma, cultural or legal concerns.[3] Thus, these figures cannot be used to compare real suicide rates, which are unknown in most countries.

China Asia 6.7

North Korea Asia 8.2

South Korea Asia 21.2

And it didn't list numbers for Taiwan

[–] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Luci@lemmy.ca -3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

The image says 16.7 for Taipei, not 6.7. neither my comment nor the image contains a 6.7.

Now you can argue all western and Eastern sources are undercounting nk and China, that's why I didn't even include nk given the natural mistrust of information from a country with less than 10k tourists a year; but any search of this info online shows the same trend: Chinese nationals dont commit suicide as often as their oppressed neighbors.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You know what you're completely right. Fixed the numbers and added sources in the description.

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca -4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Awesome now explain the correlation between these rates and your claim. Maybe you can help me out by telling me the methodology of gathering this information and how truthful the reporting actually is.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The reason you'd have more suicides is because more people are unhappy with their lives to the point where they want to end them. Meanwhile, even if we don't the exact reason, we can see that there is a statistically difference in outcomes between two systems. Let me know if you need this explained in simpler terms.

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds like a personal opinion. Im asking how the information was collected and if its trustworthy info

Let me make this simple for you: how do you trust an authoritarian government to provide correct suicide rates? Do you think north korea wants people to believe their citizens are unhappy or happy?

I've said "fudge the numbers" a few times in my replies as a hint.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Since you're the one making baseless claims it is on you to provide evidence that numbers in states you don't like are manipulated. Try to put a bit more effort into your trolling.

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca -1 points 20 hours ago
[–] culprit@lemmy.ml 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Those downvoters would be very radicalized if they could absorb information critical of capitalism.

:KingOfTheHillMeme:

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 20 hours ago