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Australia has enacted strict anti-hate crime laws, mandating jail sentences for public Nazi salutes and other hate-related offenses.

Punishments range from 12 months for lesser crimes to six years for terrorism-related hate offenses.

The legislation follows a rise in antisemitic attacks, including synagogue vandalism and a foiled bombing plot targeting Jewish Australians.

The law builds on state-level bans, with prior convictions for individuals performing Nazi salutes in public spaces, including at sporting events and courthouses.

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[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (8 children)

The thing is this just makes it "cooler" among the Nazis because now it's illegal. It plays right into their persecution complex. It also opens up a legal morass of trying to define a hand gesture in court. To me this seems like it's fighting the symptoms and not the underlying problems.

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[–] ashar@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah. How about from 1948?

[–] ashar@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Now make it retroactive and with universal jurisdiction.

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

One year's mandatory jail term for any "hate-related offenses" seems a bit far imo. Should be just a fine at least for first offense *on the lightest end, unless it's some physical attack and stuff like that.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You’re playing into the paradox of tolerance. Don’t do that.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's nothing to do with paradox of tolerance to think a year's mandatory jail time for a year is pretty ridiculous for any "hate-related offenses".

I'm against in general of just throwing people into the slammer and hoping that fixes the issues. Punishment should fit the crime and some dipshit doing some Nazi salute isn't worth a year in goddamn prison. Give them a hefty fine for first time, sure, but a mandatory sentence of a year for any such offense, just seems too far.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

Why stop at jail time? Why not execute them?

Edit: the point is to consider what level of punishment is appropriate, not to actually execute anyone.

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[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

a paywall for a moral breach sounds like a horrendous idea

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you consider a fine just a paywall then do you feel like there should be jail sentence for all traffic violations too, for example? A bit ridiculous, imo.

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[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

What a nicely timed distraction from issues like housing, cost of living and health.

Albo was definitely always going to pass these laws even if Zionist gangs hadn't staged the attacks across Australia to create the headlines that triggered these laws.

Definitely wouldn't happen here in Oz!

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