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[–] Llufollis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

I never used 70% of these apps (14/20) nor do I have an active account on the remaining 6. Im weird.

[–] whalebiologist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

Any idea how to find this kind of info on Discord? They seem extremely tight-lipped about how it's harvested and used,, I'm sure it's more horrible than I can even imagine.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 1 points 5 hours ago

You can still Duolingo and dodge (most of) the bullshit.

Use GrapheneOS.

Install Duolingo from the Aurora store, no Google account attached.

Sandbox the app and set its permissions to disallow location, disallow pulling contacts etc.

Make your Duolingo acct with a fake name and burner email (sucks for you if you already made one with your primary email and real info).

Manually add "friends" via their Duolingo usernames.

Note that, like Facebook, your contact info could be getting shared by other users who have your real info listed in their contacts. Not much you can do about that. (In fact, you could use none of the apps on this list but your contact info is probably still getting leaked by your normie friends and acquaintances.)

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Buahahaha, nothing on this list on my phone!

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Coming up at eleven: The politician is just lying for your vote; The stripper doesn't really like you; Corporations are NOT your friend; If you're receiving a service you aren't paying for, YOU are the product; and, finally, we conclude our three-part series: Water - It's Wet As Fuck Tho"

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

If you're receiving a service you aren't paying for, YOU are the product

some exclusions apply

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fucking Duolingo? The fuck? What do they need to track users for like that?

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's a for profit public company. I've been playing around with the idea of possibly creating a FOSS app that would run its servers via donations and (same as duolingo in the beginning at least) community created courses. Would need support from proper linguists though.

There are other apps like that but they lack the sleek UI and gamifying aspect or simply have only one language.

I pay for duolingo so I hate that they are tracking me but it's the only actually fun casual language learning app out there and honestly I don't mind paying for such a good app, but their monetization schemes are getting more aggressive: e.g. time limit games which are nearly impossible without paying for "extra time potions" which you don't get even if you have the paid version.

Edit: just to add to the time-limit games: you can just not participate in them, but fuck me for paying to the app and still having that bullshit in my UI.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://librelingo.app/ is looking for contributors 😉 It's written in python, so if you want to take a stab at that, I'm sure they'd be very happy to have you.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Lemmy provides once again, thanks @onlinepersona@programming.dev! I'll have to see if I can get back into python and take a look into this project

[–] MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

time limit games which are nearly impossible without paying for “extra time potions” which you don’t get even if you have the paid version.

Alright then, keep your ~~secrets~~ 3rd star

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

I can't keep a calm frodo face while seeing something that has not been completed on my ~~journey~~ duolingo learning path

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, no surprise there. The more popular they are, the more leverage they have over you and the more abuse users are willing to tolerate.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yep.

I think to be more specific it's like popular music: the broader the reach the more it's appealing to fundamental aspects of human nature (aspects that everyone has to some degree). This makes it more useful from a data collection standpoint.

This makes it harder for outliers to avoid, even if we want to, as everyone else using something like WhatsApp means we have to fight against the tide of other people and not just the crappy companies.

Whatsapp Business? Is pedestrian Whatsapp not even on the list?

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only apps i have are Google Maps, which i try to replace with Organic Maps.

And Duolingo cause i like to "learn" a language, while having the gamification motivate me.

[–] JackAttack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I currently use Waze because the features are awesome but how has your experience been with organic maps? I want to use it but worried about it not being great. I haven't actually tried it.

[–] Linearity@infosec.pub 6 points 1 day ago

Waze, the Israeli app, was bought by Google.

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago

Traffic data is missing so not great for navigation

If i just need to lookup some stuff on a map organic is great, but no rview for businesses, or looking for a pizza place google is just way better at that

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago

magic earth will be a little closer to waze, but unfortunately the israeli app is just kinda the best at commute routing…

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Spotify is my problem: I like different stuff and I don't plan on carrying Gs of it on me, but I do wish I could kick it away.

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know what your technical abilities are, but setting up something like Navidrome could be the ideal compromise.

[–] kat@orbi.camp 1 points 3 hours ago

How's that one? I've been using Plexamp because is the closest alternative and love the sonic analysis. But would rather do something open source.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu -3 points 1 day ago

To delete them, I would first need to install them. Maybe I should do that? Or maybe not, as I don't think they're worth wasting my time (and my peace of mind). Beside digital ID, password manager, financial apps, my cloud (Filen.io) and a chess app, + the taxi app, I have nothing installed on my phone. Not even the email is active. I used to listen to podcast but even that I removed.

I use a few of the service listed but only on my computer, containerized in Firefox. So they and their constant tracking can go f.omething themselves ;)

If I was to really start using my smartphone, I would stop using my iPhone (which I consider less insecure privacy-wise than vanilla Android, but far from being private enough) and would buy one of the /e/ powered smartphone available. I purchased one for my spouse a few years ago and it's still working great. Worth mentioning she is like me with her phone and don't do much with it, but all the apps she needs (for work, finance, and stuff) are working fine.

[–] zante@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Very Light user of Amazon, WhatsApp. Heavy user of Spotify . That’s all.

Edit : very light PayPal .

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Check out Hermit and Native Alpha. They make websites work like apps. I use them for Amazon, my bank, my medical insurance portal, Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, my local libraries, dictionary.com, etc. Pretty much any website I use regularly.

Combine it with a password manager (Bitwarden), and it's almost exactly like using an app except much less phone data collected: no location, no installed apps, no phone number, no device or advertising ID, no battery level, etc, etc. Only what I allow the browser to give it (and both of these have settings to limit data collection).

Also, I find it works way faster than some (bloated) apps, and it's a single install for multiple services so I'm not eating up storage for crappy apps.

[–] zante@slrpnk.net 1 points 19 hours ago

great - will look them up