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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

I'm sorry, but if you didn't vote Dem in this election, you're an idiot of the highest caliber.

Vote Trump, you're an idiot for obvious reasons.

Vote anyone else in an election like this one, you're an idiot. The 3rd party candidate with the most votes only got half of a single percent of the total votes. In other words, no 3rd party candidate had even the whisper of a chance of winning.

If you're willing to gamble on a sure-to-lose scenario in an election as serious as the 2024 election, you're an idiot.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump very obviously played the left with the help of Netanyahu while throwing the democrats under the bus, and the left ate it up. While the right unified, the left splintered into micro groups all hating on each other for having differing opinions within the left. I’m hearing Americans now saying “well it’s the Dems fault…” great, you sure showed them huh?

Those people did the equivalent of chopping off their own foot, but calling it a win cause they got blood on the other guy.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Yup. I hope the "Biden is committing genocide" and "Dems didn't solve every problem known to man" are happy with their new president they helped elect.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

if you didn’t vote Dem in this election, you’re an idiot of the highest caliber

Support for the GOP correlates heavily with the presence of a fossil fuel industry in a given state or electoral district. It also tilts heavily by gender, with women and pocs tilting heavily Dem (black women vote ~~Republican~~ Democrat in the 90-95% range) while white men are around 2:1 Republican.

The party politics flows accordingly, delivering the red meat their base voters crave while focusing the more material policies toward their respective donor bases.

What's really fucked things of late has been Dems pandering to factions that don't actually support them (huge Dem support for AIPAC when Israel special interests were leaning hard right, huge Dem support for the domestic tech sector when Bezos/Zuck/Elon were throwing their support behind Trump, Harris parading around with Liz Cheney to the cheers of basically nobody).

If you’re willing to gamble on a sure-to-lose scenario in an election as serious as the 2024 election, you’re an idiot.

Republicans and Democrats both love a big rug pull. The difference on Lemmy is that you'll see plenty of people recognize the scam that is $TRUMP coin the moment it is announced, but you'll still see them doggedly defend Biden for stiffing college debtors while throwing billions into an Infrastructure Investment Act for a Silicon Valley crowd that hate him.

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[–] labbbb2@thelemmy.club 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Someone can tell me why they voted for Trump and right away after that abuse of power became OK and rule of law in US significantly deteoriated? In democracy it would be possible to right away impeach Trump, or re-count the votes, or investigate it, or something like that...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

Because it's "their team."

I truly wish there was more to it.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Every single independent voter I talked voted for Orange Nero. That is how they conceal their racist neo-Nazi bullshit beliefs.

[–] FatCrab@lemmy.one 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's because in practical reality, there are no independent voters. The vastly overwhelming majority of independents actually vote consistently along party lines.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's an interesting assertion, which caused me to ask a question here: How are we defining "independent", exactly?

Because if it's merely "not a member of a major political party", it pretty much explains everything.

[–] FatCrab@lemmy.one 2 points 16 hours ago

It's been defined a few ways. Based on registration and also self reporting.

[–] umean2me 3 points 2 days ago

I will spice up your life I'm an independent voter and didn't vote for Orange Nero :D

[–] Spiderwort@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The billionaires with their hand up Trump's ass are clearly more evil than the billionaires with their hand up Biden's ass.

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, yes and yes, but unfortunately yes. It's possible for a capitalist shit stain to be worse than a capitalist pee stain, even if only by a near indiscernible margin. Which mattress would you rather??

[–] SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Dems failing to pass helpful legislation is different than scrapping the country and having the peices sold off by Donald Trump

But to a centrist everything that isn't shoveling ice cream into their stupid maw is equally evil

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Huge red flag, using "centrist" to apply to anyone who criticizes both political parties. Lot of those people identify as "leftists" with Democrats to their "right". It's an really grotesque America-centric framing that makes it sound like any position outside of the genocidal American mainstream is automatically wrong, and any bipartisan critique is just lazy indecisiveness. As if every systemic critique of this country is wrong. As if you ever even bothered to think critically about the entire system yourself, or what better possibilities are out there. I think that's what they call a "thought-terminating cliche". Your mind hasn't gone there, but you'll attack anyone whose mind has. Really disgraceful behavior.

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Filthy centrists.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

"I don't feel comfortable voting for a woman with the same policies"

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good! We want boring. I don't want to look at our government every other day and think this is the day we are going to die. Or loved ones. Or stupid fucking decisions that have nothing to do with the voters. We long for boring.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I remember tuning into the morning news every morning during his first presidency to make sure the US hadn't imploded overnight. There was always some new shocking shit every time. This week has been no different.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Speaking of 2020, remember when democrats worked hard to pour all their support behind Biden over Bernie? What was the explanation for that?

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

lots of people who vote for dems aren't very leftist. The reality is that for dems to win they need to pick sides opposed to republicans on enough issues to capture a majority. 2020 Biden did that. 2024 Biden Harris did not.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (10 children)

remember when democrats worked hard to pour all their support behind Biden over Bernie? What was the explanation for that?

Biden got more votes?

Like, it's not that complicated. Lookup both Democratic primaries Bernie has been in. He got crushed in popular votes both times. I like Bernie. You apparently do too. Doesn't mean most voters do. He lost the popular vote. Twice.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I wouldn't say he got crushed. But you're not wrong. Despite people being wrong down voting you for saying that he lost the popular vote. He 100% did. I can say that as someone who voted for sanders. Unfortunately a lot of Sanders voters can't.

A lot of the Democrats primary rules weren't very democratic. But Sanders knew what they were going in. And Democrats didn't break the rules. And despite losing, Sanders got shit done and helped make the rules more democratic for the future.

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[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

"I wanted to be outraged and lose sleep daily. I need to yell at my computer and throw things at my TV in order to feel alive"

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