other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter.

You know you can post an unpopular opinion without being a completely unlikable cunt, right?

I'm not sure why you think lemmy is full of Musk fans, but I think you'll find the guess to be incorrect. There's not a lot of Tesla drivers on here. I know that because for the most part, the only people that are here, are ones capable of doing a little research. Ones capable of doing a little research, probably won't buy a Tesla. People who do research on stuff definitely research their vehicles.

There's probably a handful of people that got the early generation stuff, but probably not many. Anyways, have fun.

I bought a Tesla because I wanted an electric car with certain features and all the other brands, sold thru dealerships, insisted in charging a 'low stock' fee of $6-$10k that I wasn't willing to pay, even though I prefer some of the other options.

If that makes me a tool.. well, ok I guess. I'll be in the shed if you need me

Sir this is unpopular opinion, not based opinion.

Counterpoint: Anyone who bought a combustion engine car in the past few years is a tool.

See how that works?

I've had mine for 5 years. I wanted an EV and at that time (in the US) there really was no option even remotely close with the combination of range, charging convenience and technology.

Elons downfall sometimes makes me slightly embarrassed to be associated to it in any way, but its still a great car, not perfect but great. 5 years and I've had to replace a set of tires, wiper blades and fluid, and 2 sets of cabin air filters. That's it.

Its popular to hate on Elon and its rightly deserved but come the fuck on.

As a BMW driver, I am pleased that there is a new asshole driver car

Although I do believe Elon has been acting like a fucking maniac for the past few years, I would still buy a Tesla if I had the money for it. There's absolutely no other electric vehicle on the market with so much tech and so much power for so little money.

Quality? For sure others are better in this regard. But just pure fun and power? No other even comes close, and the ones that do (Porsche Taycan, etc) are much more expensive to buy AND maintain.

There's a reason Tesla model 3 is the best selling electric vehicle in the WORLD. Shit's good yo.

We have to know how to separate Elon, the character from the products and services his company provides. (except Twitter, it's gonna burn to the ground.)

I can write from a Company perspective with multiple EVs. All Tesla models except X. We have VW Golf E, IDs, Mercedes EQS, E-Tron, Polestar and some mercedes E-vans. I've driven all of them...long range, short range, multiple months. And in the price range of 45-55k€ nothing beats The Model Y (2022). Its a great car. Tesla has made a great leap in quality from 2020 to 2022. We have Model 3s from different years, and the difference is huge. The recent ones are stellar for their price....no comparison with anything else on the market. This will certainly change quickly in the next years. The supercharger grid is also the single best feature.

Also...I can distinguish between a car and a delusional apartheid willy wonka.

If liking the CEO is a prerequisite for buying the companies products I'd better start learning how to live off the land

I have a Model Y since nearly a year now and it's overall the best car I have ever owned. Drawbacks? So far no. QA issues? No. Overall quality is actually on par with a similarly priced German car, if you ask me. The rear bumper? Still attached.

At the same time Tesla is the only car company where people make a direct connection between the car and the CEO. Couldn't care less about Elmo.

I own a Model Y, don't give a fuck what Elon does or says. I own a Ford too and couldn't tell you who the hell the CEO of Ford is. Their personal opinions have fuck-all to do with the product, in my opinion. I test drove one, loved everything about the car, the charging network is objectively better, and I'm a big fan of self driving so that's a bonus. I'm a little over a year into ownership and there's absolutely no complaints I have about the car, it's been a great experience.

Now the question is, why do you have such strong opinions about what cars other people buy? I've had a great experience with my Tesla and don't know of any better way I could've spent my money on a vehicle.

I’m not a musk fan and he’s really turned me off from the brand but as far as my car goes it’s great.

Source: Goober who bought one two years ago and has enjoyed it thoroughly.

The billionaires want us to fight each other, don't fall for this trap.

I've driven probably close to a hundred different Teslas and nearly every electric car currently on the market over my career working with cars, and I completely agree with this take even when you remove Elongated Muskrat and the semi-functional, utterly misrepresented Autopilot entirely from the equation. Sure, a Tesla (in proper working order) feels really good to drive, but practically every other electric car on the market (outliers being the Leaf and the Bolt) are working as hard as they can to capture that same experience and most are doing a really good job if not exceeding that standard. The only differences are that most other manufacturers have what I have to assume is a massively more robust design and engineering team, better quality control, and generally decades upon decades more experience in designing cars in general, and not taking advantage of that as a buyer is a pretty dumb move, especially when you start researching the myriad issues with Teslas. Sure, Tesla may have kickstarted the electric car market, but with all the current, similarly priced options on the market, buying a Tesla is purely for the status-symbol optics or because you actually buy into Elon's BS, which is its own can of worms.

This is going to be what Lemmy is for a while, isn't it

I respect your opinion and I hate pretty much everything that Musk says and does... but I love my car. The other options on the market are not as good at this point. Maybe soon they will be, and I'll look at them again next time I buy.

Elaine

Gender shaming? What the fuck does your projected gender issues have to do with anything?

Fuck everything about that clown Musk, but no one can deny that Tesla makes a compelling case when you just look at only the cars and the network.

The funny thing is that one of the biggest advantages that Tesla has had - namely that charging network - will now be open to basically everyone since North America seems to be switching all to their adapter. So in one fell swoop, they have lost their biggest advantage.

And as more vehicles come on-line from other car makers, they will lose their other advantage, but they are still Top 3 in all the categories they compete in. To claim otherwise is ridiculous. And I say that as someone who would never consider a Tesla to a large degree because of Musk and their god awful build quality and anti-consumer and anti-worker tactics.

I hate Musk with a white hot intensity but I want Tesla to succeed. I think it’s important to stop burning oil, and I think the traditional car industry would drop EV production like a hot potato if the Tesla threat went away. I drive a Ford PHEV and I have a short commute so I buy gas a couple times a year. It was the better option for me, but I want people to keep buying teslas. So, they’re not tools, they’re smart, good-looking, and wonderful dancers.

Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future

If you mean future as in save the environment, then I disagree. Individual transport as a mainstream mean of transportation is the problem. What we need to save ourselves is to replace 95% of cars with public transports and bicycles, and then the 5% remaining can be EVs if you want. The reality of EVs is they shift the carbon footprint from driving to manufacturing, and the emission from local to the power plants (depending on the production means where you live), but the total reduction is not nearly enough.

That's why I still want my Nissan Leaf instead of a Tesla

As someone who does not own a Tesla due to a crippling, chronic case of nomoneyitis, a Tesla has been my dream car for a while. That is to say, it was, because after watching more than a few Technology Connections videos @ YouTube, Hyundai’s EV has me looking like that distracted boyfriend meme.

It looks even cooler than a Tesla to me, and the features seem better too.

from what I've seen about Tesla, reliability is a factor. Here's a quote from Which, a good place for reviews in the UK: "Tesla cars garner a lot of hype for their innovations, but reliability isn’t one of their strengths, according to our annual survey of owners. In our latest reliability survey, the Tesla Model 3 performed well in a number of areas. However, the fact that 28% of owners experienced at least one fault (well above the average) consigns the Model 3 to a three-star score for reliability."

Wow, spoken like an absolute tool.

i'm just waiting for a reasonably priced e-car capable of towing an RV trailer a reasonable distance to hit the second hand market.

i don't really care which billionaire cunt the original owner gave their money to.

it probs wont be a tesla though. they have a poor record on right to repair which is pretty important on the second hand market

I've received numerous reports on this post now, and I'm doing my best to leave it up. Please refrain from personally insulting people here (i.e. the post title and update). Still leaving it up for now.

Hey, you do you man. If you solely base your opinion of people based on what car they drive I am not going to convince you otherwise. I mostly presume this is meant as a trigger post to drive engagement, in which you succeeded.

With that said, I have a model 3 and I'm pretty happy with the car and how Tesla have been treating me. The supercharger network is fantastic for long travel. I don't agree with Musk on most things and maybe my next car won't be a Tesla. It's always a pros/cons weighing on what features you value most atm.

I don't know a ton of Tesla owners, but the ones I do know aren't "Tesla Bros" by any stretch. Half of them didn't even know who Elon was and once I explained the response was "oh that guy owns Tesla? I didn't know that".

I think the average population just isn't that in the loop sadly.

You have a problem with Tesla's boss, not with Tesla.

I don't care . Alls car are garbage . Be dependent to them suck .

I don't have a tesla, so I don't have any reason to defend them.

But elon is not any different from any other automotive ceo. Wolkswagen, bmw, stellantis (FCA) and so on are actually much worse. They are cheaters, corrupted, most of them spent decades brabing governments to boycott public transportation and EVs.

Elon is bad, but he is probably the least bad of the automotive industry. Which gives you an idea on how much rotten is the automotive industry

Teslas build quality has been hit or miss since they came on the market.

I will always respect them for showing people that electric cars can be viable and fun. But nowadays, I would never bring myself to buy one knowing that some of the profit is going towards that fucking imbicile who owns twitter.

While I'm not looking to get a new car rn. Down the road I'd like to consider something like a Toyota BZ4X. The first gen has a few issues that need to be ironed out. But a few years from now, I reckon itl be a great option

That or something like it from Honda. Those two brands are who I trust most in terms of reliablity and build quality if I'm going to make an investment in a new kind of car, I want it to be them.