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this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2023
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I bought a Tesla because I wanted an electric car with certain features and all the other brands, sold thru dealerships, insisted in charging a 'low stock' fee of $6-$10k that I wasn't willing to pay, even though I prefer some of the other options.
If that makes me a tool.. well, ok I guess. I'll be in the shed if you need me
One of the reasons I bought my Model Y is the Supercharger network. Last winter my wife an I did a road trip vacation up & down the east coast and we never had a single issue with charging.
I’m thrilled to see all the other auto manufacturers that have announced support for Teslas NACS adapter. Whenever I’m in the market for my next EV I’ll gladly look at all those options that weren’t available a couple years ago.
Exactly this. I expect to keep my Model Y around for a long time, but I'm excited about how much more developed the EV industry will be when it's time for me to buy my next car. More competition is always a good thing, and I'm hoping the new players in the EV space will either produce a better product than Tesla, or force Tesla to iron out more kinks in their products to stay competitive.
Did you know about the subscription fee for the live traffic, no navigation after 8 years, no CarPlay/android auto, extra for the wall charger, and cheap plastic box interior look before buying it though?
Yes, as someone who also purchased one. Premium connectivity is $10/mo or $100/yr and it does a lot more than give you access to live traffic. You can also use it to watch Netflix and Youtube, stream music, and straight up browse the web from the car's screen. If you don't want to pay for it you can hotspot the car to your phone.
I ordered when the wall charger was still included so I still got one.
I have no complaints about the interior, and anyone who was conscious during the test drive certainly knows what the interior looks like before buying one.
Sounds like a great experience over all. Seems people is a little miffed they can't actually buy one
I'm sorry you feel that way, but I truly believe you have a fundamental misunderstanding about what the Tesla premium connectivity subscription is for. Most vehicles don't come with a SIM card and LTE connection that you can use like a phone. It would be ridiculous to pay for premium connectivity in a vehicle that doesn't have those features, but Teslas literally have a cellular data connection. That poses a recurring cost to the carrier (in this case it's AT&T but paid thru Tesla), so it makes perfect sense for that to be a recurring cost to the end user.
Your car doesn't come with free oil changes or tires for life, so why would Tesla pay a similar amount indefinitely on all it's vehicles?
Yes, like overpriced, pieced-together shit?
Honest question, have you personally been inside a Tesla or did you form your opinion through YouTube videos, car reviewers, and anecdotes from other people?
I wouldn't say the interior is on par with a typical "luxury" vehicle by any means, but I don't think it's bad either.
Edit because I think this is relevant:
A few weeks ago I made my first large mess in my Model Y. While getting out of the car I slipped and spilled a soda, a pizza slice, and 5 wings all over the seat and floorboards. I had root beer going down the walls, pooling in the seats, saturating the carpet, etc.
And I have to say, that is the EASIEST interior I've ever cleaned in a car. It took me about 15-20 minutes and it was spotless. The faux leather is sealed nicely so the soda didn't absorb through the stitches or run out the sides, the trim pieces were fit together snugly and I didn't have to go digging to wipe soda out of the door jamb or seat tracks. The fabric on the B pillars and headliner didn't stain, and it was easy to get to any spots I needed to. It doesn't smell like any of the food afterwards either.
I've spilled shit in a bunch of other cars and trucks of all shapes and sizes, and the Tesla was the easiest to clean up by far. I was impressed.
My boss owns a Tesla Model X. I have had many rides from him and while taking those rides I've formed ... opinions ... about Tesla's vehicles:
Autopilot is actively dangerous. Thankfully my boss isn't an idiot and doesn't use it ever outside of the time he demonstrated it to me.
The automatic parking was comical. Again while demonstrating it, the car went back and forth and back and forth and eventually my boss gave up on it and parked manually. In one move. He doesn't use the automatic parking.
The gull wing doors are fucking stupid. Open them in a rainy day with even a slight hint of wind (but how many rainy days are windy too!?) and you'll see why.
The driver's in-dash display is prone to hallucinations like having cars next to use at a stop light showing as spinning around like helicopter blades. Or having the massive truck next to us being displayed as a bicycle.
The main display is this huge fugly rectangle in a car that would otherwise be ... passable interior design. It took an interior design that I actually thought was decent (not great, but not bad) and threw it into the bin to make it something that was just so jarringly ugly it amazed me.
Now to be fair, there's some things I liked about the car too:
Interior space engineering was OK. Most American cars don't leave me enough usable leg room. This did. It wasn't as nice as some of the BMWs I've been in, or even Toyotas, but it was way better than any North American car I've sat in.
I love the combo windshield/sunroof. The fact that the windshield extends to over my head and beyond is lovely.
The performance was decently impressive.
The only important feature in everything you said was live traffic and no you cannot get that with hotspot to your phone.
You get traffic aware routing even without the subscription. You just don't get colored lines on the screen without the subscription.
I've been running for just about a year without the Premium Connectivity subscription.
There's no fee for traffic aware route planning. The only thing the subscription fee gives you for traffic is the colored lines (red, yellow, green) on the screen when you look at it indicating traffic density. If you're using navigation without the subscription, the routing takes you to exactly the same place on using the exact same roads while taking traffic density into account as the subscription does, just no colored lines.
You can use Carplay and Android Auto on your Tesla screen via third party apps. Here is a video of it is running on a Model 3 The app I use cost $5 to enable Android Auto on the Tesla.
My wall charger came with the car.
I guess I'll use Android Auto then.
Sorry to kill your rant points.