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I recently stumbled across a post in the c/Europe community (https://lemmy.world/post/24641691) that highlighted alternatives to software and infrastructure from Big Tech companies. This got me thinking - is there a similar resource available for Canadians, or would there be interest in creating one?

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[–] Rakenclaw@fedia.io 24 points 1 day ago

I use mstdn.ca for twitter replacement.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago

Neglects mention of Tailscale!

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Self hosting is a viable option, if not difficult. This is also an opportunity to start Canadian-oriented services.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

An interesting caveat I've found for self-hosting is that getting server hardware in Canada is harder now that several companies, most notably NewEgg, have decided that any equipment that might have a business use case requires a business account and license, meanwhile Americans can still buy things like rackmount hardware no issues.

You can still get rackmount stuff on Amazon, but fuck Bezos. I'd like a better option. I've found some places like AVADirect that will ship to Canada, but not any Canadian businesses that sell that stuff to normal Canadians.

That would be an interesting list.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

This may not be a popular position, but stay with me: most companies don't need big servers.

I've been working in this industry for 25 years, and in my experience, nearly every company I've worked with could have hosted all of their internal and external services on consumer hardware and even a cluster of low-power devices like the Raspberry Pi.

The real limiter isn't hardware, but network access. You can have a massive k8s cluster in your office, but if your network provider flakes out, your business goes away.

So, I would argue that what we really need is colocated network hubs all over the world capable of hosting cheap hardware. Mythic Beasts here in the UK does stuff like this for example, to get effect.

[–] Pixel@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

If you're okay with older homelab-esque equipment, the ERA, also on eBay as Calgary Computer Wholesale, often has really cheap rack mount stuff. This being said, the ERA is a pretty sketchy organization overall (it's closer to a small e-waste recycling business that takes advantage of its status to reduce liable taxes (with variable employee salaries equivalent to dividends) and take advantage of free volunteer labour, than an actual non-profit organization). Sometimes, provincial government surplus auction sites have rack mount equipment as well.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We might be better protected using EU services than Canadian. I mean commercial services and the regulations they have to adhere to. Non-profit run stuff like Lemmy.ca (Fedecan) is different.

[–] Slax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You're right, maybe it's a dream to have a Canadian GDPR-like policy. I once tried to get Canadian Tire to delete my data and they declined the request. 🀦🏼

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Canadian Tire has a habit of asking for all my personal details when I return an item (still in box, unopened. WITH the receipt). I politely tell them it's never going to happen, and that my personal info is protected by Canadian privacy laws. They usually just nod and do the return.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Hi, welcome to Lemmy! Glad you are here.

I don't know of a compilation of resources for such a broad set of services. It would be good to have. Sometimes there are one or two mainstream Canadian alternatives to services but they are often owned by the largest Canadian companies. An example being Moneris and Interac for big fintech companies.

But if you do some research there are some that can be found in many categories. It would be helpful to have a spreadsheet or something!

[–] Mettled@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

It seems that there are no Canadian owned companies that provide services that the public can register for account to use their services.