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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

Hate to break it to you gals, but congrats to Trump for becoming the first female president!

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 5 points 19 hours ago

So now there will finally be wage equality. All the previous males will be getting a 23% pay cut.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if due to age, condition or procedure you don't produce any?

I feel even if they went with this, there could be better ways to define it.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

No one produces sperm at conception. No one produces sperm at birth. It's nonsense legislation.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 2 points 19 hours ago

Best part is, in order to prove I'm a man, I need to wank and they need to check on a lab.

ATM my gender is SchrΓΆdinger's

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago

I for one accept my new government assigned gender!

Now when are they passing that government assigned discord kitten legislation?

[–] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's cool and all to dunk on their logical fallacies, but don't think for one second that their poor wording will stop them from enacting untold violence against trans people.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 day ago

No question. But the memes are copium for this dark age we are entering. 😭

[–] luce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

name checks out (the [they/she] part)

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 days ago (6 children)

...that's not how that works.

Early stages of development are bipotential, which means they could develop either way, they're not initially female.

Around 6-7 weeks, if carrying a Y chromosome carrying the gene SRY, they develop into testes. If there are two X chromosomes, then ovaries develop.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Except it is pointless to talk about any of that, since the order defines what male and female means.

Males are those belonging at conception to the sex producing small reproductive cells (aka sperm).

Females are those belonging at conception to the sex producing large reproductive cells (aka eggs).

Since at conception I (and everyone else) did not produce either, I am now neither male nor female according to the new definitions.

These posts just show that the loudest people on the left are just as scientifically illiterate as the loudest people on the right :( I mean, it's mostly just reading with understanding they fail at, not even lacking knowledge...

[–] Fungah@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

People too often forget that its as important to be critical of the things you believe in as well ad the things you don't.

You should be constantly questioning and reassessing your own beliefs.

[–] Broken_Orange_Juice@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But aren't the sex chromosomes decided at the moment of conception (or even with the sperm/egg). They need to work on their bigotry, it's frankly just basic biology. "their legal gender is their sex chromosomes upon conception". Although that opens another can of worms for those people whose chromosomes don't match their genitals, but I'm sure they can throw a few asterisks in there to sort that out.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

Yes, they can throw a few asterisks in there to sort it out, agreed.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...So we're all legally non-binary? NBs rise up!

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No, it's very binary, because it's either or.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Right, but if you start as bi-potential, then you aren't one or the other, but are in an a tertiary in between state.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

Yes, but you're not born like that, you are one or the other.

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Trans women loves this one weird trick that trans men hate!

[–] double_quack@lemm.ee -3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

What I understand about the "intention of the text" is that:

  • XY: male.
  • XX: female.

People who's body or mind don't match with their genes would then be a male or a female with one or a combination of hormonal, developmental, or psychological issues.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

What I understand about the β€œintention of the text” is that:

That's probably the intention, but because it was written by somebody with zero academic biological experience that is also trying to cosplay as a professional writing a rigorous definition, it fails to do so.

XY: male. XX: female.

Would you like to hear a crazy secret? We biologists don't use the words "gender" and "sex" separately because we feel like it, there is a major difference between the too. Want to hear something even crazier? We don't use "XY = male!" as our definition either.

People who’s body or mind don’t match with their genes

Huh... where else do you think their traits come from? Their soul? Their zodiac sign? Your phenotype is nothing but your genes + regulated expression from the environment.

then be a male or a female with one or a combination of hormonal, developmental, or psychological issues

Are blond people just a male or female with a developmental issue in their hair's pigmentation? Or for this specific category of human diversity you're okay with calling them what they are rather than trying to define what wild type genomic expression is the "correct"? I mean, a person with XY chromosomes but a mutated SRY gene would develop entirely as a female, your worldview seems to imply that's "hormonal and developmental issues!" but then I'd love to hear your views on race - or in fact, I would much rather not hear them, if they follow the same logic as your initial proposition.

While we are here, how about the XY individuals with a working SRY gene that physically develop as male, but have certain neural activation patterns only found in women and that swear they were born in the wrong body from a very young age? Why exactly are we going to discard the biological evidence to their subjective perception, just because it makes you uncomfortable? Because if that's the case, maybe your subjectivity makes me uncomfortable... should we start listing and denying aspects of your physiology too?

[–] double_quack@lemm.ee -4 points 18 hours ago

Jesus Christ, chill, my dude. I was just explaining what I understand/interpret from the text and its context, not endorsing anything...

My gosh, I am escaping from Reddit precisely because of this aggressive behavior... This is literally my first day in this platform and I get sarcasm and hostility right away.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

What about:

XYY?

XXY?

XXX?

[–] double_quack@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

They are certainly fascinating exceptions, but I am not educated enough in the subject to have a strong opinion. I was just sharing what I interpret from the text posted.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 311 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

Trump declares ~~himself~~ herself the first female President of the USA? 😳

(Edit: Excuse me Mrs. President, I had misgendered you.)

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[–] subiacOSB@lemmy.ml -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Really, I’m a lady now? How so?

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

… What’s the point of commenting when you didn’t even bother to read the post?

[–] subiacOSB@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Maybe just don’t get it oh well

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 208 points 2 days ago (30 children)

Technically no. They aren't male or female, they're undifferentiated. Since we're neither male nor female at conception, this order means males and females don't actually exist at all.

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[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 129 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Turns out they were always asking, "What is a woman?" because they had no idea either.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 95 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I didn't consider this option, but it seems to be an easy fix to the whole gender thing. Everyone is female. period. *(no pun intended)

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 89 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Own that period joke. You conceived it, whether accidental or not, so you should carry it to term.

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[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fem-cel community has already accepted me even though I'm a cis straight white guy who's asexual (so voluntarily celibate) but I'm happy I can now finally check one box and accept myself as a femcel.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But are you voluntarily celibate if you are asexual? I don't mean it as a gatcha or something, but as a philosophical question.

In my social circle, the asexual people seem like they would probably prefer to be non- asexual because it is easier to find a partner for life if sex is not a no-go. So clearly their asexuality is not voluntary, they just are what they are. now acting on the involuntary part of yourself, is that a voluntary action?

(Sidenote: I am not saying that these asexual people aren't accepting who they are, or think it is bad that they are what they are. Personally I think being pansexual is the best because you got all the options, while I seem to be straight and I am very comfortable with it and feel like I am living a comfortable and fulfilling life with my partner. So I really mean 0 hate towards asexual people or anyone else. I am just talking about the practical impaction of sexualities in our given social norm)

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

It's a spectrum. For example you're friends who wish they weren't asexual are valid and are asexual. I do not feel the same way.

I have the ability I don't have the desire. I actually have children. I've also had girlfriends suggest various things like maybe I have low testosterone. Never got checked for low t. It's not something I'm really interested in fixing. I'd compare it to wanting crack cocaine. You don't want it now, maybe there is a way to make you want it... Why tho? Seems like an extra complication to life. As for relationships: the ones I've had haven't been great. The ones my friends have don't seem all that great either.

I'm good. I've got my books and no desire for anything more . What is there to fix? Why should I fix it if I'm already fine? Why should I make myself want more than I already have if I'm already happy? You normal people don't seem all that happy with it, why would I want it? I'm good .

How much time do you spend trying to get sex or a relationship? How much time would you save if you... Didn't... And you didn't want it? Why would you want to want something so time consuming.

Edit: what i mean is from my view point people are basically asking "why don't you try to create this void in your soul then Spend your entire life working on filling it... Mostly unsuccessfully, and failed attempts will be very very painful, but one day you MIGHT fill the void and you'll be happy because that void is now filled!"

Why the fuck would I want that. It sounds awful. You guys go right ahead tho. I'm not judging. I'm just say "nah man I'm good"

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 19 hours ago

Thanks for sharing. I totally see your point. When I was younger, the need and the availability to satisfy it really didn't line up. Kinda sucked.

It sounds to me like you are aromantic too. Am I catching that right? I would separate chasing a relationship from chasing sex.

Personally I need a partner and a sex life. Wanting a teammate for life is the best thing to me. The other is just really fun to me.

Anyway thanks for sharing! It was really interesting reading your perspective!

[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Much like anything else, being asexual is a spectrum. It took me a very long time to figure out I was and that's because I personally didn't get any physical satisfaction out of sex, but I enjoyed the part where I made my partner absolutely melt with pleasure. Feeling romantic or emotional pleasure from sex is not uncommon, especially when coupled with someone who gets a ton of pleasure from it. That being said, I haven't had sex in over a year, and from the way things look, I'm not going to for a very long time. I won't say it's voluntary though it's definitely not because my partner doesn't want to.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh interesting πŸ€” from the people that I have a more in-deph conservation, I understood that sex wasn't enjoyable for them because they felt really uncomfortable with it which resulted in a non-satisfying experience for the partner and in turn, generated a feeling of failure to be a good partner in them.

It is really interesting to hear different perspectives. Thanks for sharing and please anyone who wants to, share with me your thoughts and feelings on the matter!

[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I would assume that there are different 'reasons' that cause the broader feel of asexuality. Mine is a complete apathy for the want or need of it. I can enjoy making others feel good, such as giving them a massage in a normal way. I can feel that my work towards helping them feel good is rewarding in and of itself.

I figured out my side of things when after being with my partner for many years I was getting increasingly frustrated that while they were able to enjoy the experience for what seemed perpetual, my side of things remained the same, regardless of whatever was done. To feel the same for oral or penetrative felt like something was wrong to me so I started looking around at other types of options. I did whatever appealed to me but in the end none of it changed anything for me.

For other people, they may have a different kind of situation where the act in any form is uncomfortable which can be a personality quirk or in some a complete lack of empathy. Something that is blocking them from experiencing what is in effect a 'really intense massage' that some people crave. I'm not going to try and list all the various societal/personal/learned behaviors people have about sex across the globe which may play a part in their enjoyment/need/desire for sex.

Edit: cleaned up a small section I wasn't happy with and I was hurrying at the end of my lunch break to try and get all the words out. And Also:

Anecdotally, I've been very lucky to have moved many places and seen many things, met many people on a close enough level that knowing how often they sought sexual activity. I know some people who are obsessed with getting some, some who are relatively indifferent, and others who equate it to a smooth drink at the end of a good night. All over the place in terms of how much they focus on it.

After realizing that I may very well be ace in my own right, other little puzzle pieces started to fit together. I was in a long distance relationship with my high-school sweetheart after high-school for about 5 years. I had no issues with lacking any kind of intimate touch, my partner needed it and despite all that cheating stigma, went ahead and found some anyways. It was important enough to them that waiting for someone to appear once every 6ish months wasn't an option for them. I didn't understand it then.. because again, I had no issues waiting that long or longer. I would talk to them almost everyday and that was more than enough for me.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 20 hours ago

Oh interesting! Thanks for sharing. I didn't expect from you to be able to explain it all. I just love hearing different perspectives as it opens my eyes to aspects that I missed.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 33 points 2 days ago

Trump increases the wage gap rather unconventionally.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 168 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I think this is actually more gender abolitionist if you think about it. No one is producing reproductive cells/gametes at conception. They begin by producing undifferentiated stem cells that will later specialize into all of the other cell types.

Male and female now officially retired. Rejoice!

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