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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I just wish we had a bit more political balance here... I'm not talking about fascists, but more people that don't blame everything on capitalism would be kind of nice...

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 19 minutes ago

Not trying to get into a whole ugly thing, just curious what your pro-capitalism stance is. Because I would definitely fall into this big Lemmy category of seeing 90-905% of modern problems being rooted in capitalism. So I would (civilly!) disagree, no doubt. Doesn’t mean we can’t have a reasonable discussion!

[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

Preaching to the choir!

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 1 points 47 minutes ago

I'm not so sure. Depends if there's a solution to the bots. Bluesky is inundated with them already.

[–] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I dont want to deal with people gore spamming every single Matrix channel again.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 points 18 minutes ago

I don’t understand this sentence. The two words I don’t know in this context are “gore” and “matrix”

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 28 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

It might be the only path forward.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 26 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Guillotines are another option.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

More will just spawn and take their place.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

More heads require more guillotines.

[–] UnrefinedChihuahua@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Can we not design guillotines that cut multiple heads at once, thus reducing the head to guillotine ratio?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You're onto something here.

I guess we could stack the rich on top of each other. That way we wouldn't even have to modify the guillotine. We'd just have to make sure the blade is extra sharp.

Make the design 4D, and stack them in multiple dimensions, maybe one 4D guillotine is even sufficient?

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[–] mspencer712@programming.dev 56 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

My own “we need” list, from a dork who stood up a web server nearly 25 years ago to host weeb crap for friends on IRC:

We need a baseline security architecture recipe people can follow, to cover the huge gap in needs between “I’m running one thing for the general public and I hope it doesn’t get hacked” and “I’m running a hundred things in different VMs and containers and I don’t want to lose everything when just one of them gets hacked.”

(I’m slowly building something like this for mspencer.net but it’s difficult. I’ll happily share what I learn for others to copy, since I have no proprietary interest in it, but I kinda suck at this and someone else succeeding first is far more likely)

We need innovative ways to represent the various ideas, contributions, debates, informative replies, and everything else we share, beyond just free form text with an image. Private communities get drowned in spam and “brain resource exhaustion attacks” without it. Decompose the task of moderation into pieces that can be divided up and audited, where right now they’re all very top down.

Distributed identity management (original 90s PGP web of trust type stuff) can allow moderating users without mass-judging entire instances or network services. Users have keys and sign stuff, and those cryptographic signatures can be used to prove “you said you would honor rule X, but you broke that rule here, as attested to by these signing users.” So people or communities that care about rule X know to maybe not trust that user to follow that rule.

[–] knobpolisher@feddit.nl 2 points 2 hours ago

honestly, i'll donate money to whomever can design this and make it scalable.

[–] helopigs@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think the key is building a social information system based on connections we have in real life. Key exchange parties, etc

It's the only way to introduce a prohibitively high cost to centralized broadcast and reduce the power of these mega-entities

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

Could you clarify? A sneaker net? Peer to peer?

I think the good news is, regardless of what gets done, people are hungry for real connections and the old internet.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Decentralized is too complicated. Worker owned is a better path forward and is centralized so it's easier to support and be understood by its users. Moderators are workers and should have equity.

[–] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

Karl Marx 2.0 right there

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 hours ago

Communication is not for sale.

[–] YourShadowDani@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think if we had co-ops running some of these systems it would definitely alleviate some issues

[–] josefo@leminal.space 1 points 1 hour ago

I can imagine better and safer infrastructure, along with better funding alternatives than "please donate to your instance". If people can make a living from maintaining an instance, service can be hugely improved. Think most people are running instances on their own spare time and resources.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago

This is early days; I have a feeling in a few short years there will be ownership and simplicity of distributed services and whatever evolves from them.

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