this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.


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edit: As I'm seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms. It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board. FAQ: Why? That's a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada's excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances. How does this work? Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed. What about the posts? Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world's federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won't be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled. As for the posts on lemmy.world's 196, we're leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM. Once again, here's the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: !196@lemmy.world)

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[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Does this mean, I have to block 196 a third time or is the block independent of domain/instance?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Sadly yes it has to get blocked again

there goes my monopoly?

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Federation prevents censorship and promotes balance"

merges into one instance

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 12 hours ago

Seems like lw wants to do that everywhere https://feddit.org/post/7018270

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago
git push --force
[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

As soon as I read about this I thought it was a terrible idea, but other than the instance they chose, and the fact that they didn't bother consulting the community (which are bad in their own right) I didn't really have enough information, but since their mod team have started responding to people, it has become clear that it is not a community I want to participate in.

Beyond minimising and dismissing the legitimate concerns people have, and being very territorial over a community they had seemingly often left for someone else to mod for them, reading through the comments on one of the announcement posts, I found an example of the kind of "over modding" they disagreed with, and I recognised it as a comment that was removed from a post I had made. At the time I was very glad it, and several like it were removed, and was quite surprised a few days later to see them restored, and was really confused and disappointed. I took it as an orange, almost red flag, which along with a previous unrelated orange/red flag made me take a slight step back from the community.

Now reading Ada's side of the story, it all makes a lot more sense - my guess is she had originally removed the comments (she had come on to the post to say she was intervening), and the 196 team then swept through and restored a whole chunk of them back when they finally got around to modding themselves.

I'm almost glad this happened, because now I know who restored those comments, and whose modding to be wary of.

Bottom line - these are not the mods for me, and since an alternative has already been opened on blahaj, this is a non issue, screw 'em. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

E: They have now made a non-apology post, in which they confirm my suspicion/conclusion that it was in fact the comments removed from the post I had made (because Ada prioritised marginalised people's voices and needs, over those of the self-proclaimed "allies" who came to tell us what bad marginalised people we are for "alienating" them by also prioritising ourselves and our needs) that caused this move.

Classy.

This

We understand that a lot of respect and trust was lost, and we expect it’ll take a lot of work and a lot of time before we can earn it back, but we would be grateful if y’all gave us that chance.

and

Having another team take over splits the community. The more fragmentation there is, the less longevity and volume of community each skew will have.

Did give me a good laugh though. I'd say in case they hadn't noticed, the community has already moved on, but I suspect that it is precisely because the community has moved on that they even bothered to make that post and pretend like they've learned something from this.

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 68 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (19 children)

PTB. Mod didn’t communicate with any of the users, then moved to the most universally problematic instance that’s not ML-associated. Awesome. Fucking stupid.

I will he blocking the new community and everyone else should too.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago

As I'm seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team,

I'll be sure to avoid them!

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 92 points 1 day ago (30 children)

Why would they move from blaahaj to .world? That doesn’t do any good for the Fediverse…

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"lack of local moderators" seems to sum it up. the mods just didnt want to use blahaj accounts

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[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got to say the real cringe is that such a decision took months for their mods and they had to discuss with admins of both sites. Just move the community and be done with it. I hate mods acting like they have some huge job especially on lemmy when the mod log is slow and barren.

[–] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago (12 children)

lol, according to the admin of blahai, they didn't even talk to her: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12466657

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