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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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news: .world world news mod removed from world news (i.imgur.com)
submitted 10 hours ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I cannot repost what Flying Squid was posting here, because it involved highly disturbing and dangerous content, including:

Content WarningGraphic content, harassment, self-harm, and suicidal ideation, which I reported immediately.

While this behavior is shocking, it’s not completely out of left field, as members of this community and platform will already be familiar with their behavior. Flying Squid has long been regarded as one of the least productive and most problematic mods on all of Lemmy, often picking fights and abusing their mod privileges. I view this change as a positive step for Squid, .world, and Lemmy as a whole.

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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Looked up the modlogs. What the actual fuck.

That said, this whole episode and the comment deletions with the "we can't share this" reasons kinda show how Lemmy is better than Reddit in that modlogs are public.

I find it great that mods can't outright delete stuff, only hide it. It lets them do the job of cleaning up convos of spam and trolls without the unchecked power aspect to it.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Am I crazy or is the modlog missing heaps?

I control-f for the 'I to complain?' part of the post above and don't see anything. Just trying to follow the argument is confusing as hell? It sounds like someone doxxed FS, and he got suicidal over it? I hope gets some help if he's seriously feeling like that.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, admins can purge stuff from the mod log. That comment seems to be completely gone.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

that comment specifically was a link to a graphic image, so yes the admins certainly purged that. cc @Deceptichum@quokk.au

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Ah interesting, I’m curious as to what it was now.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

i saw it XD here let me telepathy it to you bzzzzzt

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Wow that's fucked up, was the zebra consenting?

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 3 points 3 hours ago

It's not really a black or white issue.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

BPR

But they didn’t act in moderation but as a user so the only actual mod action here is Jordan and it’s justified to remove that comment chain.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. And while FS may have been a PTB in general, this isn't really an example of it, it's just sad.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

edit: replied to wrong comment original conversation here

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because he'd been reported on here previously? Ok, I kind of get what you are saying, but it also feels a bit like rubbing salt in his wounds when he's obviously having a hard time. But it's just my sentimental opinion and I won't say you're wrong either lol.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

you know what you changed my perspective. im gonna edit the title at least you are absolutely right i am being a little salt rubby here.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

arr we're all a bit salty sometimes :p

[–] Cattypat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

Both of them are fucking insane. To devote this much energy to weirdos on the internet is deranged. They both need to devote their energy to better things, as evidenced by the fact that I had to press "show context" on their comment thread so many times I lost patience. I thought everyone on Lemmy was better than this. I dont care what the original cause of the disagreement was at this rate because EVERY step of the way, one of them couldve turned on do not disturb or gone to an alt account or SOMETHING. If either of you are seeing this, you can do better. Flying Squid specifically? Threatening suicide is the number one way to look immature (of every kind), especially over a stranger on the internet. Do. Better.

Edit: If someone could give a kind description of what the drama was even all about, I'd appreciate it. I can't bear to dig through either of their histories.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 9 hours ago

I'm fine with looking at this stuff. It seems FS is having a mental health episode, and this is the result. It's not drama.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And the sick thing is we have been CALLING THIS GUY OUT FOREVER. The .world admins are ABSOLUTELY partially at fault for this for letting this user have the power they have had for so fucking long. Sorry for shouting I’m upsetti. 🙃

+1 to your edit though. The content was so vile and triggering, I was not up to the task. So, fair warning to anyone who wants to further investigate a case where every party is so obviously in the wrong. Tread carefully.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

we have been CALLING THIS GUY OUT FOREVER

The mods aren't the only ones at fault either. He got so much support for this insanity. Call out his BS? Get asked for evidence. Provide text book evidence and it isn't enough. Be clearly in the right from a PTB and downvoted 10:1. The one time he's not technically being a PTB, but rather exhibiting symptoms of manic-depression, and people defend him saying 'this post isn't appropriate' when the history makes it absolutely so. All you upvoting MFs in the past have been cheering a clearly insane person, so maybe do a personal inventory of what seems rational to you and double check reality eh?

I'd be cheering for his removal except he's still mod of a few communities I'd like to participate in. L.W admins need to delete all his content and ban the IP address. I for one can't wait to never see that name on Lemmy ever again and I know I'm not alone.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm not a fan of his moderation style, but isn't the last paragraph a bit much?

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago) (1 children)

It'd only be enforcing what probably is going to happen voluntarily anyways. My guess is it will be months before he uses the account again because he'll want the drama of 'did he do it?' to play out.

If I thought it wasn't too much I wouldn't have said it, and you saying it is literally supports the first paragraph (edit: which makes it a hilarious joke if that was your intention). He shouldn't be on Lemmy. The damage he's done over time is incalculable and what good would come of letting him back on? Besides it's not like even that could stop him anyways.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 57 minutes ago

I agree he shouldn't be moderating any community. But IP banning him from the whole site seems too much.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not celebrating, the guy is threatening suicide, and posting pictures of it. He needs to get off the Internet and seek help immediately.

I've messaged @lwreport@lemmy.world about it, I suggest you all do the same.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 5 points 9 hours ago

Yes (Content Warning)
Unfortunately, this type of behavior, including threats of self-harm, is not uncommon on the internet and can sometimes be used as an emotional manipulation tactic. However, discussions of suicidal ideation are very sensitive and can be harmful if not handled carefully. Let’s focus on reporting this to the moderators while remaining careful and sensitive in how we address this topic.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

If this post was about Flying Squid banning you then I'd get the relevance to this community. Otherwise it's just drama imo.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 6 points 5 hours ago

There are enough posts complaining about FlyingSquid moderation here for this one to be relevant

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

i disagree personally i think this post certainly falls under “bans or other sanctions from mods” as outlined in the sidebar

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Who was power tripping in this example?

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 0 points 5 hours ago

oops i wrote that comment in the wrong text box. copy pasting here:

your position is valid in that this is technically not an example of active power tripping. i personally think this community is more valuable as a historical resource with this kind of follow up content but i won’t say your opinion is wrong.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 7 hours ago

they still moderate the following communities

[–] holo@lemmy.wtf 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Well, seems they've been turned to grounded calamari. Too bad all other world news comms are already better and the damage has already been done.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

jordanlund is still around who is like squid’s slightly less chaotic yet just as unproductive twin. i will certainly be sticking to !world@quokk.au for now.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 15 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

I can second !world@quokk.au along with !usa@midwest.social and !politics@sh.itjust.works, and !technology@lemmy.zip.

I never understood the beef with FlyingSquid. Every time I heard this hue and cry about how he was abusing his powers, I asked for details, and it turned out the details were that he sent one rude message to one user, months ago, or that he liked to argue with people. Whatever. If he's now in a bad place I hope he gets some help. Life is fragile.

Jordan is too nice, and too much pretend-objective behind a supposedly objective set of rules, in my opinion. He tends to allow clearly toxic people and behavior, as exemplified by you-know-who, as long as they are careful not to violate any of the written rules more than twice or three times a week. There's nothing wrong with being nice but in some positions of authority it can wind up getting abused.

Jeffw is great. To me the epitome of his style as far as I can tell was when people starting complaining about the fact check bot, and he said "Oh, you don't like it? We'll remove it then." Why it was ever some kind of more complex other operation besides that, everywhere else, is why I no longer chill with lemmy.world.

I have mostly moved on from the LW communities and I would recommend that you do the same, so I care very little about all of this, just tossing in my opinion in passing.

[–] MelodiousFunk@startrek.website 2 points 3 hours ago

I never understood the beef with FlyingSquid. Every time I heard this hue and cry about how he was abusing his powers, I asked for details, and it turned out the details were that he sent one rude message to one user, months ago, or that he liked to argue with people. Whatever. If he's now in a bad place I hope he gets some help. Life is fragile.

Exactly this.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I can second !world@quokk.au along with !usa@midwest.social and !politics@sh.itjust.works, and !technology@lemmy.zip.

Good choices, but Midwest.social admin is known for power tripping: https://feddit.org/post/5548029?scrollToComments=true

Are you aware of any other community for US news?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, I'm not. Yeah, midwest.social is weird. Just a little bit. I hesitated putting it up there.

It's frustrating to me that there is no really good community for non-political US News. !news@lemmy.world I have 0 complaints about, but it's lemmy.world, !usnews@beehaw.org is a little quiet and also defederated from lemmy.world which in my opinion isn't ideal, and yes, midwest.social is a little bit odd.

You know what? Fuck it.

!usa@ponder.cat

Let's see if that is useful.

I'm open to suggestions, as far as whether it should be only non-political news, and political news should go into one of the already existing multiple good places for it.

I feel like a lot of the interesting news that is going to happen over the next few years is going to be political, though.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

You know what? Fuck it.

!usa@ponder.cat

Let’s see if that is useful.

Nice, feel free to promote it on !AskUSA@discuss.online

I guess a promotion post on !world@quokk.au would also help

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Jordan is too nice, and too much pretend-objective behind a supposedly objective set of rules, in my opinion.

He still has to come back about an arbitrary decision about Canada government terminology that the majority of Canadians users consulted refuted: https://feddit.org/post/5761475/4078668

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 points 4 hours ago

That's an example of what I mean about the fake objectivity. It's hard to explain exactly, but he shows sometimes a sort of defaulting to some kind of "officialness" or higher authority that's figuring everything out, that he speaks on behalf of, that doesn't actually exist.

It's okay to just be a person, and use judgement, and be wrong sometimes. People will respect your authority more, not less, if you do it that way.

I'm not trying to bash the guy, I slightly bad even about talking about the topic. I think he's doing some hard work at an important role for keeping everything functioning. I do disagree with his judgement in some areas of moderation, though, and I think when you sign up to take forcible control over some area of people's experience, you also sign up for having your judgement talked about even if it's not complimentary to you.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 6 points 9 hours ago

thx for sharing

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Why don’t the Redditor stay there.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 10 hours ago

i’m saying like-

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 hours ago

Fuck yeah 🤘