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Massive leak reveals next-gen Xbox could be a cloud-hybrid console, Series X|S refresh coming in 2024 | The Xbox is set to undergo a sea-change in the coming years.::undefined

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[–] Bootheal0179@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I’ve just bought my very first Xbox. It’s Series X, and although I like it well enough, I’ll probably never buy another Microsoft product. My software & my games need to be on my discs, not the cloud. I’m not interested in renting or leasing games with the game pass. I’ve already started amassing a nice collection of used/older Xbox games from various sources, probably have enough to keep me busy for the next decade. So, this mantra of “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy” isn’t going to work in my case.

[–] HC4L@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel the same but I buy shit on Steam all the time. Probably because I can still play my old shit on there and I don't risk having to buy every indie game several times because it isn't compatible with the latest console.

Also, the pricing on console stores are ridiculous..

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 5 points 1 year ago

At least Steam has repeatedly said that they have "measures" in place to make sure their customers can still access the game they bought if Steam had to shut down. They didn't go into details though, so finger crossed.

[–] float@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Also Valve supports Linux gaming and creates quite non-standard products like the Steam Controller, Link, Deck (which is awesome!), HTC Vive, ..

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fair enough. You'll come a cropper though if it requires an authentication check. Regardless of your device works. I think going consoleless and having emulators to play games is the better route. Unfortunately the newer games aren't the same as retro consoles.

If they require patches and don't have them they might not work.

[–] Bootheal0179@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know you’re right, it’s a Sisyphean task to push back against the tides of corporate greed, but I still will push and save my old school games for archival purposes for my grandchildren, and I will hope that they appreciate my death by the big corporate boulder, was for their gaming freedom.

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say that. Steam has done a pretty remarkable job. I think having an offline storage for games and an emulator that can play them is the only way to fight back against them.

As time goes on likely we will start to build or port Game's. Consoles will be obsolete and it will make emulation much easier. Only time will tell though.

Fight that hard fight

[–] Tick_Dracy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you misspelled GOG. Steam itself is a DRM (even though some games don’t have the DRM in place), you’re still at the mercy of a company to allow you download your rented games and at the mercy of a developer to not include it.

Sorry, but you can’t be a supporter of game preservation and Steam at the same time. They’re on opposite spectrums

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think you can tell me what I can and can't do. But I get your meaning. I have used gog but it rarely has games that can be run through GeForce.

I think steam is better than consoles. But yes drm bad. Why I advocated for emulation as a way to maintain games

[–] helloharu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This generation was the one where I intended on buying my first Xbox as well. I wasn’t going to get it at launch but I was interested enough to be willing to put the money down. However seeing how MS have progressed so far, the increasing push to cloud gaming, game rental and more has been increasingly off putting. It’s a shame as well because around launch I was excited by how beautifully engineered the Series X is.

[–] EyesEyesBaby@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the sole reason I'm not buying consoles anymore. My last console was a PS3.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I was so disappointed with my PS5 purchase. It's an alright expensive entertainment device, but the nonsense with the exclusive games is another. I bought it because it had a disk drive, now it seems they aren't really planning on releasing many disk games. Between that and the Bethesda shit I feel like I got played. And Xbox is no better, the only thing available was their shitty series S for like forever, plus my Xbone had its own set of hardware issues for not being that old or overused.

[–] SquishyPandaDev@yiffit.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They already tried that and got roasted for it. Oh well, time for round two

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

And it worked for well for stadia

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • Massive leak

Carefully coordinated advertising campaign

Ftfy

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

No, this one is actually a leak I'm pretty sure. It has to do with Microsoft's ongoing trial with the FTC. Someone fucked up when sending documents.

[–] bender@insaneutopia.com 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Theyll decide when you can no longer play the games.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

And as we already know from multi player games they promise 5 years but pull games after 6 months.

[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm gonna buy a Nintendo and hide under the blankets

[–] Bye@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

I despise subscriptions for most things. Movies, tv, audio. The technology to play them doesn’t really change: you could listen to modern audio with 1970s technology, your cel phone, and a 25 cent cable. Similar with movies. So I pirate all that stuff.

But video games? The hardware really is prohibitive for big titles. I want to play starfield because I loved oblivion and morrowind, but the hardware is so expensive. My pc could play it but nvidia linux drivers are a mess.

Anyways, my point is that streaming actually makes sense for games. Plus I could play for a month, finish the game, and subscribe and play the next big title when it comes out.

If I can stream games onto my computer or old Xbone (no reason why not) with low latency for like $15/mo, hell yeah I’ll do it.