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你们还要学中文?

老子一出生就已懂中文了。

你们已经迟到了,party 早就开始啦!

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Just as I finally see Chinese culture gaining more global cultural relevance--- and it had to be in order to bypass a ban of an intrusive app.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

Gotta rise up to that Firefly/Serenity lore.

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can anyone explain to me what makes TikTok and now this RedNote so much better than the other short form options (YT, Insta... others) that people think learning a completely different and unfamiliar language is not only viable, but the best option?

I want to learn another language for travel purposes, which to me makes sense. I've never had the itch to learn one so I could use a social media platform.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's not even to go for a TikTok clone, it's more to do with the avoidance of Meta products because they're following Twitter and allowing toxicity and constantly pushing ads and influencers and MAGA. Someone decided hey it would be funny if we just installed an actual Chinese app just out of spite since we're effectively getting censored anyway so getting censored on a chinese app to blow it all up would be funny. It was supposed to be a meme.

Turns out the chinese people on there were mostly excited to get so much attention and an opportunity to talk with americans. Loads of kids there practicing their english, and people felt so welcomed they're trying to learn the language and everything's subtitled in chinese+english because they want to communicate back and make their content accessible to them out of respect. There's plenty of content there to teach chinese to the newcomers too. Bunch decided to stay because it's just pretty nice since the lack of politics and "sensitive" topics it's a very positive and welcoming platform for once.

The whole thing is a completely accidental cultural exchange on a massive scale, and a very rare case where americans and chinese people kind of can talk directly like that. Both sides gets to peek at the other's lifestyle and bond over common things instead of hating on eachother. They aren't learning chinese to use the app, they're learning it to communicate and exchange with the people. The chinese government seems unconcerned and welcoming as an extra fuck you to the US.


The algorithm is surprisingly not really biased nor pushing propaganda. It's happily suggesting me openly queer content (with a lack of hate comments and americans being called out for their hateful comments), they have gun content, they have a car scene, they have their thirst traps (with respectful comments), it's really not all that different than us and not the propaganda machine the US is so concerned about. It kind of leans more left than TikTok if anything, which makes the ban even more questionable.

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I wouldn’t overthink it. It’s just a youthful rebellion/protest thing. Old people banned an app young people like and young people were like, “Ok, fine. We’ll use a different app, assholes.” And they found one even more Chinese just to be obnoxious.

But to answer your primary question, Instagram is a bloated app with a terrible algorithm made by a garbage company owned by a garbage person. But just as important, Instagram is also where TikTok users’ parents are. Youths don’t want to hang out with friends where their parents are watching. Hell, I’m middle-aged and I was annoyed when my mom followed me on Instagram. Like, “Stay on Facebook, mom. That’s the boomer app.”

I’m sure almost every TikTok user is a YouTube user too. But YouTube Shorts isn’t the same as TikTok. Shorts are basically a way for established creators who make longer, professional videos to make little casual ones between their main video releases. It’s not a drop-in replacement for TikTok. The vibe is different. (If Shorts had been released as a totally separate app with a separate algorithm, it’d be a drop-in replacement for TikTok but they just duct taped it onto YouTube proper.)

Plus, the data and national security excuses were always horseshit. Congress was trying to protect American dominance in social media and during the debate, members of Congress said their issue with TikTok was that it didn’t have an Israel boner. https://forward.com/culture/688840/tiktok-ban-gaza-palestine-israel-antisemitism/

Forward is a publication aimed at a Jewish audience, for the record, so that’s not some antisemitic conspiracy theory.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago

They said a 216% spike

That could be an extra 15 people

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

sick society

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you just use duolingo as a translator?

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[–] Luckiesock@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that this post is a total load of bs.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] Breve@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like how they don't label the y-axis at all to give any sense of scale. This graph could be showing a jump from 10 to 22 people. 🤷

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

That's what I was thinking. Probably not that small, but not a lot it's a notoriously hard language to learn. You have to be pretty stupid or nieve to think you're learning it on Duolingo.

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