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When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I migrated my custom domains to Tuta and canceled my Proton subscription as a result of all of this.

And Proton had fucking better give me a prorated refund.

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[–] chandlerbung@lemmy.cafe 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Fuck Proton than.

What's a good alternative I can use?

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

God damnit. I just swotched to Proton this week

[–] Covenant@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago

Yeah same for me. I took the blackfriday deal... Now i have a year to find an alternative.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 19 hours ago

Wonder if he'll change his tune when Trump starts going after people using their messages?

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 25 points 1 day ago

That’s a nice one to rub Andy’s nose in. I’ll put that one in my cancellation note.

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[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 70 points 1 day ago (5 children)

How did both him and and the rest of the board think this was a smart thing to stand by? Does he really think people interested in privacy also support Trump?

What a way to alienate your entire customer base

[–] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Thankfully privacy is not (yet) a left/right issue. Plenty of rightwingers that also care about privacy and plenty of leftwingers that don't.

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[–] ivsbat@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 271 points 1 day ago (15 children)

People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.

And you seem to have forgotten that Trump's Attorney General William Barr tried to force backdoors in encryption.

So shut the fuck up Andy, you're out of your element.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I'm toughing it out unless someone offers me a good alternative. E2EE and has this whole suite of tools. However, it's unfortunate that I use my protonmail address for my main address and not my custom domain.

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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Wow. And I had just about now completed moving my addresses over, fucking hell

Mullvad then I guess?

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[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 232 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Getting real fuckin tired of having to always find 'alternatives'. Can't yall rich bastards just stop being weird and be content with making good products. Just cause you have money, doesn't mean you need to have a public opinion on anything, ever

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[–] atmur@lemmy.world 154 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I can deal with Andy Yen being a dumbass in his own time, but the official Proton reddit account doubling down on this shit is over the line for me.

I literally just renewed for 2 years a couple days ago. I will be looking for alternatives and hopefully I can get a partial refund or something.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 147 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Mentioning that Democrats are trash on dealing with corporations is just fine. Good, even.

Lying through your god damn teeth that Republicans are going to do anything other than lie to gain more leverage for their jihad to fuck over their fellow man is delusional at best.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dunno what's worse. Lying about Republicans being "for the little guy", or actually believing it. Both point to significant logic, reasoning, and judgmental flaws in Proton's leadership.

I've been calling America a corporate dictatorship for well over a decade, so Yen/Proton realizing the Dem's are captured is welcomed, but the belief that R's are better in 2025 is completely insane.

I've got 18 months left on my current plan, so that'll give me time to see how deep this clusterfuck goes and transition away if need be.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago

Thank you for being one of the saner takes in this thread.

Call out the bad and insane parts of Andy Yen's comment. Also call out the good. Don't fall for the same trap that Yen himself got caught in by painting the entire thing as "full MAGA". The characterization from this post's title feels similar to me as Yen himself saying "all Democrats bad and care only for the big guy".

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[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 89 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well I no longer will be recommending proton to people. Can't trust anyone this stupid with privacy.

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