When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb
So many lies in one post (by Trump), it's hard to keep up with them.
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What the actual fuck. They are not even an American company. US does really try to dismantle Europe.
Proton AG do not depend of the European Union. It's a Switzerland company, that snitched ecelogist activist to french intelligence. Swiss is very conservative, with a lot of disdain for foreign workforce. I don't see any contradiction.
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archive.pH doesn't load. Mastodon thread doesn't load. Anyone got an archive we can actually load?
That's a pity. I was looking for a service to jump to from my current email and VPN. They were the top candidate but not in consideration now lol.
I'm toughing it out unless someone offers me a good alternative. E2EE and has this whole suite of tools. However, it's unfortunate that I use my protonmail address for my main address and not my custom domain.
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We should collectively rename them to sometime like Protrum Mail, or alternatively Protoff Mail.
Oh shit he was a Trump apologist already in 2016. Look at this awesome whataboutism.
https://proton.me/blog/trump-control-nsa-privacy
It is not Trump’s fault
It is tempting to blame all this on Trump, but that is taking the easy way out. All Trump does is put a new face on the existing privacy problem, so now it concerns a segment of the population that previously didn’t care as much. Proton Mail users have always come from both the left and right side of the political spectrum. Today, we are seeing an influx of liberal users, but Proton Mail has also long been popular with the political right, who were truly worried about big government spying, and the Obama administration having access to their communications. Now the tables have turned.
The same terror the political right has experienced is now being felt in liberal bubbles such as Silicon Valley for the first time. The left is correct to be terrified of a Trump-led NSA snooping on their communications, especially since Silicon Valley giants like Google and Facebook can be forced to spy on users on behalf of Trump’s NSA. However, this precedent was not set by Trump – he hasn’t even taken office yet. The first major incident of a US tech giant being complicit in US government spying actually took place in 2015 under the Obama administration(new window).
Can someone remind me about the terror campaigns we had against the political right before Trump was elected?
Thanks for the link. I dont see a problem with this text. He's not wrong. Presidents before Trump built the NSA and they're to blame for the NSA, not Trump.
"maybe you shouldn't be such an asshole"
"Oh my God! It's a terrorist!"
Pretty much all I can imagine.
Ughh
patiently waiting for Eppie
I dont see how email delivery to non-eppie users is going to work with that.
Wonder if he'll change his tune when Trump starts going after people using their messages?
Can Trump's incoming administration really be said to stand "for the little guys" when it's full of millionaires and billionaires?
CEOs having a "who can suck off Trump best" contest?
Gonna need to expand this
You are missing class analysis. Fascism is good for business and wealth accumulation.
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For my fellow German readers: An affordable green alternative to Proton hosted in Berlin is Posteo. https://posteo.de/ 1€ / month to have your mail hosted by a non-shitty company is a small price.
Thank you, I'm looking at alternatives to Proton, because they have just lost a customer.
What Trump really means here is "big tech has run amok they need to kiss my ring first and then they can do whatever the fuck they like". He has identified big tech companies as a key component to cement his future dictatorship and he is not wrong.
Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost.
Not wrong there…
Yeah, that's true. But going on to say 'therefore support Trump' is ... not good.
I think it's unwise for Proton to try to support any political party. Agreeing or disagreeing with decisions and policies is fair and good; but to say "this is the party who supports the little guy" is a bullshit and unnecessarily divisive.
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