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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 21 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

As long as that money is spent on public transit improvements, I think it's a great idea for many large cities.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

is spent on pubic transit

Hahahahahaha

Oh sorry, I thought you were joking. Of course they won't

[–] terabytes@lemm.ee 4 points 42 minutes ago

I certainly hope it won't be spent on pubic transit, at least.

[–] bloup@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 46 minutes ago

is there any particular reason you’re saying that besides cynicism? I am having trouble finding specifics, but there’s a lot of reporting that the MTA is expecting to raise $15 billion from congestion tolling to fund public transportation repairs and improvements and pretty much all of the proposals for this in the past required all of the revenues to be earmarked for use by the MTA

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago

Less cars is the answer! And in what transit is concerned I would say that convenience is very important. Like in Netherlands they got bike locking stations. Not simply a tube that you lock your bike into which is screwed to the front door of a building and fits 3 bikes. I'm talking massive building with an automated system that keeps your bike secure for when you get out of work after the train ride. And restrooms... With cleaning.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 16 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

Are we sure that it's causing people to take alternative transit more vs just... Not going to Manhattan though? I'm all for it, just worth studying more.

[–] yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 hour ago

Either way, the policy is working as intended; there are fewer superfluous car trips being made to lower manhattan. If people are deciding not to go over a $9 fee, I don't think they really needed to go that badly.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 19 minutes ago

The congestion zone only covers lower and midtown Manhattan. Most traffic not heading to that part of Manhattan is either going to take I-95 through Harlem, I-87 through upstate New York, or I-278 through Staten Island and Brooklyn.

You don't need to study it more.

That's why the congestion pricing revenues ought to be spent on improving public transit, to maintain the tourist economy.

[–] thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works 78 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

inb4 the supreme court rules that congestion charging is unconstitutional and furthermore that public transport, too, is unconstitutional.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 16 points 1 hour ago

If the founding fathers didn’t explicitly mention it in the Constitution then clearly it’s unconstitutional.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 25 points 3 hours ago

Congestion pricing bad, private tolls good

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago

Exhaust Now Vents Directly Into Cab: EPA says, "For your health!"

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 18 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Can anybody tell me how much a drive through the congestion priced road would cost? Like a straight line?

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago

It's not so much a congestion prices road, it's a zone. So anytime you enter that zone you pay $9 unless you make less than like $60 k then it's like $4-5, and emergency vehicles are free.

[–] Periodicchair@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

$9 for cars, no matter if you go one block in or all the way through. And no daily charge for staying there multiple days, only charged when you enter.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That’s super reasonable, and if it actually helps it’s probably fantastic. I wonder if things like emergency response times will significantly improve as a result.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 hours ago

It's like $9

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 hours ago
[–] Bigfish@lemmynsfw.com 179 points 6 hours ago (28 children)

Congestion pricing is such a good idea everywhere there is rock solid public transit alternatives. Where there's not, it just becomes a tax on the poor.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

It's so great I'm considering implementing it for my driveway and only enforcing it for people I don't like.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Wonderful news for people with porches or flexible schedules.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Hey! I'm woahkin hee-ah!

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