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I tried to be patriotic and accept him as president in 2016 until it was quickly obvious that he is a traitor to his country.

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country."

--Teddy Roosevelt

Every true patriot should stand opposed to trump.

"We" as in Republicans? Absolutely not true.

In my circle, the outspoken Republicans were absolutely convinced that "Hussein Obama" was a radical, socialist, communist, muslim foreigner who had illegally become president because he was the anti-Christ. He was here to kill the babies and white people and he destroyed the country. Practically everything was Obama's fault such that it sparked the "Thanks, Obama" sarcastic meme. He couldn't do anything right. Employment numbers down? Obama did it. Employment numbers up? Obama is lying about it, they're actually down. Osama Bin Laden killed? That makes everything worse, but also, there's no proof it was actually him.

R×publicans literally called Obama the anti-christ and tried to make everything he did into a scandal (remember the tan suit?).

My high school and early college was during the W. Bush years. I hated him, and around that time is when I got political, active, and told my (Republican) parents that I was a proud Libertarian! (Look, I've learned a lot over the years, and Libertarians used to pretend to be a little more progressive.)

My parents hated that, and constantly gave me the "you may not like him but he's your president too and you have to respect the office!" The first time he complained about Obama (hours after the election), I broke that one out and turned it around. And they ~~realized their hypocrisy immediately becoming gay communists~~ decided that the rule was stupid, actually, and that it turns out you don't have to respect the office when you dont want to!

What bothers me so much more than their stated political views is the realization that they never actually had reasoned, considered views to begin with. They emotionally select things that seem directly beneficial to themselves. And then lie about their beliefs because they know they're selfish and indefensible.

They're still republicans but I'm an anarchist who no longer respects any presidents! Funny where a difference in fundamental values will lead you.

Fox News gave Trump the platform to push the "Muslim not born in America BS" do they not remember this?

Why the fuck is this even being entertained? That's one of trump's "lawyer" tv hosts. And she's talking to some right wing rage bait podcaster. Discussing either of their opinions is fucking useless. And OP's intention in even posting this is likely just to attempt to legitimize one or both them as part of the general discourse. These are scabs on the otherwise festering asshole that is the gop. Fucking move on.

Yes, we absolutely have to own when we lose, and we have no finer example of this than MAGA on January 6th, 2021 CE. Because fuck me if that wasn’t an inspirational display of accepting the loss of the presidential election to the democrats. Truly a historic moment for decency, courteousness, virtuousness, stoicism, gallantry, and the actual definition of honor among Americans.

Better believe I make my nieces and nephews watch my VHS tape of that day every year on its anniversary.

This is especially hilarious because so much of this rhetoric came from Trump himself! He basically established his political voice by playing peanut gallery through the whole Obama presidency and pushing birther nonsense.

We all know that this is a bullshit statement that Republicans trot out to try and shame people into not opposing them, that’s a given. But to use that to defend Trump, who spent all of the Obama presidency doing EXACTLY that loudly and vocally is a special level of irony.

In the infamous words yelled at Obama by Joe Wilson: " YOU LIE"

They were behind him with a knife in his back at every opportunity from his first day in office.

https://www.politico.com/story/2010/10/the-gops-no-compromise-pledge-044311 :

Here’s John Boehner, the likely speaker if Republicans take the House, offering his plans for Obama’s agenda: “We’re going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan to National Journal: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

when Obama won we stood behind Obama

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

SURE!

Show me a SINGLE Fox news or oan clip where they are behind Obama. Doesn't even need to praise him just.. you know... Just one clip where they are not trying to punch him in the nose.

Just one.

Show me a single Republican governor or senator who actually supportes Obama...

Who me one good Obama initiative that wasn't burned to the ground because Republicans just couldn't letmovama have a single win because better let Americans suffer than let Democrats have a win. These idiots are petty, small, vengeful and egocentric and have not once given a single fuck about anyone or anything if it wasn't theirs.

Fuck these idiots

WE STOOD BEHIND OBAMA????? BITCH, TURTLE MCFUCKFACE SAID, AS SOON AS OBAMA WAS ELECTED, THAT HIS #1 PRIORITY WAS ENSURING OBAMA DIDN'T GET A SECOND TERM!!

Feb 2009: "I hope he fails" - Rush Limbaugh

Also Feb 2009: Every single Republican member of the House votes against Obama's stimulus package

Sept 2009: Republican member of the House Joe Wilson is sanctioned for shouting "you lie" during Obama speech to Congress

Oct 2010: Republicans pledge no compromise with Obama in their takeover of the House

Nov 2010: Mitch McConnell's goal is to make Obama a 1-term President

Shall I continue?

Stood behind him with a knife maybe

And they flat out denied Biden.

They're STILL not over it. What a crock.

When Trump lost in 2020 he abused every possible thing he could to try and hold onto power including a (thankfully) unsuccessful coup attempt.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ted-nugent-threatens-to-kill-barack-obama-and-hillary-clinton-during-vicious-onstage-rant-94687/

This is American, here you respect result on free election. So you don't, for instance, start a huge riot with the goal of overturning the election, 14 days before the inauguration of the new president, supporting the movement to hang your VP and attacking the US capitol.

I literally to this day hear redneck chucklefucks whining about Obama.

"We stood behind Obama" and repeatedly came up with racist and hateful statements that you and your friends were using long before I was even born.

Aaaahahahaahhahha that’s a good one. Just like they stood behind Joe Biden and didn’t tell everyone to fuck Biden or kill him…

Additionally, the problem isn't that he's not on the "right team" - it's that he's a hateful, dangerous pos that is an actual threat to many citizens and the country at large. But repubs have been screaming the same thing hyperbolically for multiple decades at this point, so now when it's a real issue, it gets swept under the rug as "sore losers". People are so fucking stupid.

"Yeah I was all for Obama until he put on that tan suit"