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    The best Unix (sh.itjust.works)
    submitted 1 week ago by butiez@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    [–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 62 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    [–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago

    Spit on that thang

    [–] grue@lemmy.world 65 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    Joke's on you: GNU/Linux isn't Unix to begin with (that's literally what GNU means: "GNU's Not Unix")!

    Therefore, MacOS is "the best Unix" only because it managed to squeeze by the BSDs and some dead proprietary Unixes ("Unices?" "Unixen?") -- hardly an impressive feat.

    Trollface

    [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    BSDs aren't even Unix AFAIK because they didn't bother to pay for the official recognition, despite literally being derived from UNIX. MacOS is pretty much the only UNIX that the average user will actually directly interact with.

    [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

    Although for both Linux and (especially) BSD, isn't there a "Unix of Theseus" issue here, if you understand my meaning?

    [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

    Maybe for BSD? They have a lot of the original code though, and BSD moves a lot slower than Linux. Modern BSDs have a lot more in common with original UNIX than macOS does, but macOS paid for the certification and the BSDs didn't.

    Linux never was UNIX though. It does loosely follow the UNIX philosophy though.

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    [–] savvywolf@pawb.social 39 points 6 days ago (10 children)

    Closed source is more secure because the viruses can't see where to get in.

    [–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 32 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    This is why I stick to TempleOS, the only biblically accurate OS. With the power of God and high octane schizophrenia, I'm completely safe.

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    [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    The main reason why MacOS has less viruses is that it's even more than that. Want to run programs not from the app store? Hope you like a convoluted set of settings you have to go through to install that in the first place.

    The second main reason is the constant obsolescence of API.

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    [–] bss03@infosec.pub 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    I'm late and this will get buried, but this really speaks to the difference between the open source / ESR / OSI ideology and the free software / RMS / GNU ideology.

    Open source ideology says it is better because it produces better software. If MacOS X was closed source and better it serves as a repudiation of that ideology.

    Free software ideology says it is better because denying users any of the four freedoms is an immoral act. If MacOS X was proprietary software and better, it would still be immoral to deny users their freedoms; the ideology is not impacted.

    [–] Stomata@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 days ago

    Someone make a virus for his mac

    [–] HStone32@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Just how do we define our metric for best Unix? Cuz it certainly isn't freedom if Apples winning any awards.

    [–] highball@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

    It's definitely not comparing Server performance because OSX Server flopped in the early 2000's.

    [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I did a wtf at dude 4 in frame 3 until I realized he was getting punched and not... well.. if you don't see it maybe I'm just net-warped.

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    [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Lol this comment section is on fire. Irony died in 2015.

    [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    People like a good flame war 🤷

    Just because one understands trolling doesn't mean it can't be fun to discuss the things the troll brought up.

    [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

    Especially when it's cold outside.

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    [–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Thank you, you made a buncha nerds angry and now they're fighting in the comment section >:(

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    [–] davidagain@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

    But everyone knows that Mint is the best Unix. (Secret giggle behind my hand.)

    I first resurrected a dead PC with RedHat before the turn of the century, mind, and that thing had UPTIME.

    I still have me a massive soft spot for Solaris back in the day, though.

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    [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 12 points 6 days ago

    I guess we have different definitions of what "best" means.

    [–] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

    SOLARIS 8 IS BEST UNIX

    [–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    Is there some twisted definition by which you can argue Windows is UNIX? Just to intensify the violence.

    [–] Trashboat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    GNU/Unix/NT, as I’ve taken to calling it

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    [–] BillibusMaximus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Back in the 90s, Windows NT had a POSIX compatibility layer that you could enable (it wasn't enabled by default).

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    [–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I know that date handling isn't necessarily indicative of the quality of the whole operating system but...

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    [–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago

    So ... the Darwin kernel is insecure? 🧐

    [–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    did you see 38c3? is there any doubt ios/osx is insecure, hackable and has plenty of rootkits avail? this facebook meme shouldnt trigger any tech savy nerd.

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    [–] Jinni@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

    Burn the witch!

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