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1 year ago

How many of you are actually prophetic?

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[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You shoot a lot of bullets, you're probably gonna hit something.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't even remember making that prediction, I must admit. It's like finding change under a couch cushion.

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Predictions get made here all the time is all I'm saying. Not surprising when one of us gets one right, especially when they're on of the most active users on the site.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I want to see a prediction that actually has the lathe-of-heaven emoji in it or right next to it that comes true.

[–] GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck, I was looking for the right emoji too because I knew you'd appreciate it but I couldn't find the perfect one.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I predict that a prediction with lathe-of-heaven in it will come true.

Checkmate liberals.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] BillNyeTheCommieGuy@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

spray & pray gets results i don’t get what the problem is

[–] Magician@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apollo cursed us all like Cassandra.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty sure that's me being quoted. Unfortunately I don't think genuinely wanting revolution and being capable of SA are mutually exclusive.

[–] GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry this wasn't a dunk on you, I even brought it up because I myself was on the fence about Brand.

I just thought it was funny

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I still think the same way about his whole shtick tbh. Just that these accusations are also very believable unfortunately.

[–] GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I dunno I kinda feel like he was grifting but who knows. part of me just thinks: show me someone who commits a SA and I will show you someone who isn't a revolutionary leftist but idk

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

show me someone who commits a SA and I will show you someone who isn't a revolutionary leftist but idk

I think some of Stalin's allegations make this a difficult position to maintain.

[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

those allegations are so baseless even the anti-tankie crowd doesnt mention it much. could it have happened? sure. but the evidence is shaky at best and rests on one historians word, Simon Sebag Montefiore. Plus Kruschev was on an anti-Stalin speedrun.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know this is such a lib line, but the validity doesn't matter to her point. I think Stalin probably didn't do it, but in the future there certainly will be some important revolutionaries who commit SA because that's something that, sadly, people in positions of power do that with alarming frequency. We're gonna have to figure out how to reconcile that very effective revolutionaries can sometimes be terrible people.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

protecting abusers in the name of the revolution is doing the work of the feds for them. no single person is so important that it's worth protecting them while jeopardizing the whole movement - it's precisely our urge to protect abusers that feds use to infiltrate, divide, and destroy.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right, if we're talking about active people then yes, we gotta root out abusers. I was thinking more in cases where it's uncovered afterward, but didn't qualify it in my comment.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

ahh got it. that makes more sense.

[–] Helmic@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

It's a nice sentiment that'll blind us to reality. What will actually differentiate us from our enemies is how we will respond when leftists do it. I don't care if he says the right things.

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He's literally doing live streams about how woke hollywood is

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Sure but his spin isn't the same as others using that word, he uses the rightwing language but his takes are more of an anti rainbow-capitalism and pink-capitalism approach. I reckon he believes he can appeal to those people and drag them left by doing so, now you might consider that a futile waste of time and I'd be inclined to agree with you but his content has a distinct difference to theirs.

To be honest though at the moment I don't really care that much for arguing over what he is, and don't really see it as mattering. I do care about seeing these allegations get the proper airing they deserve and with any luck seeing a court room.

Yeah, a lot of us don’t have to look further than our local orgs to see this is the case

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if it's prophecy or the fact that we all expect the worst of all outcomes and the world rarely fails to surprise us

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The last time everyone assumed that the worst wouldn't happen was when we were all pretty sure Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine, and yet...

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't remember anyone predicting the invasion actually happening. It blindsided us all as far as I can recall.

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what I mean. We assumed the less bad thing (no invasion) would happen, and the universe came in to remind us that the worst thing always happens.

I stand by that prediction, using the exact same logic I did to get that answer would get the correct answer every other time in the previous 25 years that any remotely similar situation happened. A 95% hit rate is pretty good.

[–] LordBullingdon@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Russell Brands “Revolution” was one of the first left wing books i read. I was trying to get off heroin at the time and, I guess just because he spoke so openly about his struggles with the drug and seemed to have come out of it alright, he was almost a kind of role model, at least in that respect. Once I got into Marxism it became clear to me that he was a grifter with no real answers, even when he was still on the left, and I haven’t thought of him for many years. The sad thing is how obvious his predatory behaviour seems in hindsight - all those uncomfortable women laughing at him in interviews so that they don’t lose their jobs, his rapey jokes, the obvious narcissism and getting off on crossing peoples boundaries. And that was the model presented to us back then for how to be successful with women - that kind of superficial gamey aggression. Nowdays with people like Tate it’s even more insane. Anyway I hope he gets his due.

[–] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

:Russel-brand: geordi-no

brace-dark-cowboy geordi-yes

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago
[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The lathe is available to all, but Dirt Owl is screaming and flapping their wings at anyone who goes near it.

[–] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure it's not prophecy, it's manifesting for the bit.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

The lathe turns

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even Cum Town bits are becoming reality now, what with the whole Tucker Carlson gay sex Obama thing.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

having sex with women used to feel good. doesn't anymore... feels kinda bad these days. what is going on?

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

My grandma told me that Adam Freidland is homo the other day, I don't know what reality I'm in anymore.~~___~~

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you actually read real revolutionary texts by real revolutionaries, it's pretty easy to tell the difference. It's all about the initial axioms they are operating on.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Also, there’s a difference between pithy observations on working class oppression and having a fully fledged revolutionary ideology mapped out.

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm ootl on this one, what happened with Brand?

[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago
[–] BillNyeTheCommieGuy@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

he wants revolution & is also a sex pest. as someone that was unfortunately at a venue he happened to be in, i fully believe he is capable of the allegations about him that have shown up.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Something cordinated dumps on Jimmy Dore and Russel Brand

Jimmy Dore taking porky-happy money to move into brainworms frothingfash territory and Russel Brand pedo accusations right as primary season kicks off. Not to say they are false but the timing screams political smear campaigns.