Oh, just fuck right off. If you don't want children, just don't have children and shut up about it instead of making yourself feel superior by making it a moral thing. And if you're actually just concerned about them ending up in the meat grinder of exploitation, get organized to rid the world of the capitalists and save all the children from that fate. Stop whining about how terrible the world is and start making it better.

I intend on adopting (in a distant future if I'm ever financially and psychologically stable). Lots of kids who have already been born could use a loving family.

I just don't want anyone new to come to this atrocious world.

Having kids seems like the punishment to me

I say stop having kids to wholly avert the undeserved and nonconsensual suffering that is inherent to a sentient life and suffering across sentient lives should be minimized

Not having kids cuz I'm not especially fond of the idea of throwing the poor little shits into the dumpsterfire we've made our world. That and I don't want to pitch my offspring as ammo into a breeding war against the Nazis/cultists/idiots. They can have it.

What if the reason I got sterilized is that I don’t want to deal with raising them, knowing full well the burden would fall to me and I can’t even manage to keep myself fed most of the time (effort, not availability) and it just works in everyone’s favor?

I can feed my cats twice a day and clean their boxes once, and they manage themselves otherwise if that’s all I have the energy for. That’s called neglect with children.

Why would not having kids punish men?

The rich can only stay in power when there is a constant new supply of naive workers

The likes of musk are breeding like crazy though, arguing against a "population collapse". But idk if the rest of the little musks would be willing to fill in the white collar jobs that made daddy rich in the first place.

I'm not having kids because I am a man. Where do I fit on the scale?

its like i found my people. while also against pro-creating, i'm pro-abortion too. if we could cause extinction, we could be heroes.

God, would then be forced to create a world worth living in. unless we stop him from doing this to us, we will be forced to return.

All this has happened before, and all this will happen again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again...

I hate this so much as a leftist talking point. If the working class has no more kids all that happens is that we slowly phase out the peasants for the inevitable shift to fully automated labor, without even attempting revolution.

Just total submission to our neofeudal masters, allowing them to effectively kill us when we are no longer needed. Like cattle.

Have kids, if only so you have proper motivation to fight for a better tomorrow instead of this defeatist crap