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[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

THE DEEP STATE IS RUNNING AMERICA KAMALA IS CONTROLLING JOE IF KAMALA WINS THE DEEP STATE WILL ACTUALLY CONTROL HER

I listened to this shit for a decade now they're literally just doing it openly. Every. Single. Critique. Is. an. Admission. Fuck.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 183 points 2 days ago (4 children)

"Thank god Elon Musk bought Twitter, because that's the only way we would even know what's in this bill," Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.) said of Musk's efforts to kill the bipartisan bill on CNN's "State of the Union."

Are you illiterate? Do you not have staff that can read and summarize the bill for you?

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

50% of your fucking job is knowing what's in bills and the other half is voting on them.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wrong. 10% of your fucking job is writing bills so long and complicated that nobody has time to read them.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Most of the writing is actually done by lobbyists.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

That's a weird way to describe the heritage foundation and alec writing their bills for them.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 48 points 2 days ago

He can read the letters R and D just fine, thank you very much.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 40 points 2 days ago

He was elected to lead, not to read

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

If the Republicans weren't all so far up Elon's ass right now I'd be more willing to believe that.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 92 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's wild how this is just allowed to happen

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Money. Money is why they allowed it. You can trace this all back to the Citizens United decision by the SCOTUS, and beyond. The only way this ends is by reversing that and properly taxing wealth, which won’t happen without a true populist movement. Otherwise, it’ll just be more Adjustors. There is a nonviolent path, but I simply cannot see the wealthy and powerful choosing it.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When your economy (and now, political system, and by extension, judiciary) rewards those who are most amoral and ruthless, violence is necessarily the end result. The only questions are when, how bad, for how long, and who wins.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I forgot another question: Who starts it

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

The capital owners started it in the 1970s when real wage growth flatlined, but worker productivity continued to rise at the same pace it always has. That was when they began taking everything for themselves and when we the people were left without a choice, because both mainstream political parties are complicit in this monumental theft of life and liberty.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

They'll choose the nonviolent path once they've had a clear preview of the alternative.

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good thing "oligarch" is just used when describing Russian conditions. That would neeeever happen here in the west.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

Yep, it's not oligarchy if it's just the world's richest neo-Nazi "advising" Trump

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 74 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but: Hagerty pushed back on Democrats' assertions that Musk is pulling Trump's strings, saying Trump is "clearly the leader" of the Republican Party.

A good sign of being the leader is constantly having to say you are the leader

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know I am well liked because I tell myself I am well liked.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

@foggy: I saw that you posted in r/dogs posts in support of the dogs. You're good.

I would 100% share my beer with you if I knew who you were. Good people of the world need to come together. Lately I begin to understand the theme in many Chinese stories about "unification" being a central goal for society. Its the only way to get the good stuff done. Otherwise we're stuck with a few corrupt peoples worst impulses.

[–] TheFin@leminal.space 24 points 2 days ago

all hail President Musk

Der Reichs Fürer?