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Summary

Tesla’s European market share is declining sharply, with EU registrations dropping 40.9% in November 2024 compared to last year, and year-to-date registrations down 15.2%.

Including the UK and EFTA, Tesla’s registrations fell 13.7% this year.

The drop stems from reduced government EV incentives and growing dissatisfaction with CEO Elon Musk.

Despite Tesla’s decline, overall EV registrations in Europe have remained stable as competing automakers gain ground. Tesla remains the largest EV producer in Europe but faces growing pressure from rivals capitalizing on its waning dominance.

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[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 197 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I used to be really keen on Teslas but a combination of Elon and stories of poor quality and after sales support have killed the brand for me.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 81 points 4 days ago

They could be the best cars on Earth and Elon's fuckery would be enough for me to do every tiny bit I could to keep their stock as low as possible.

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[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 55 points 4 days ago

Reminder that the Tesla strike in Sweden is still ongoing.

[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 93 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No way I'm giving my money to that fascist, I don't care how good or bad his cars are

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (6 children)

"His" cars are dogshit for the price. The only thing they have going for them is they are fast. Which makes them dangerous since people drive em fast and then cannot stop, since huge battery equals weight. The build quality is dog, the rear door will happily close on your fingers, and sometimes it'll just brick itself because F you.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And it'll watch, listen, and report on you the entire time!

I don't see how people fall for these grocery-store smartphone appliances on wheels, but their predictable, dangerously entitled driving patterns tend to check out.

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Damn shame too, cause the second gen Roadster is the car I've been dreaming of: hard top convertible, sporty, electric, faster than rabbits fucking. But I will never, ever own a Nazimobile.

I hope it at least inspires other automakers to bring back sporty convertibles. Until then I'll hang onto my 350Z Roadster forever. If that never happens, I guess I'll have to eventually convert the car to electric. I'm so sick and tired of every battery car being a god damn crossover. They're too big and corner like shit because of their size.

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[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 133 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Polestar sells something for a similar price and better quality, and without awkward associations with a billionaire nazi.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (4 children)

"but he's an entrepreneur genius" -s

[–] assa123@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I like your sarcasm flag *nix style rather than DOS

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[–] khannie@lemmy.world 87 points 4 days ago (2 children)

European view: I always thought I'd love a Tesla when I make the move to electric.

Would never, ever buy one now and it's purely because of mister half a trillion election purchasing oligarch.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 10 points 3 days ago

100% agree. I used to dream of owning a Tesla, I used to love Elon Musk. But now that I found out who he really is... meh, I'll never ever buy a Tesla.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

My parents got one somewhat recently (😒) and I have to say, features are also a negative point. Model Y door override is so inaccessible it might just as well not exist. No haptic control for most things except indicators as they are required by law.

Other than that it's a car like any other, so no reason to support Tesla specifically.

I got myself an i3 2017 a few months back and while you can tell it's a first gen EV and only basic non-BMW features (no Android Auto, only basic BT) I much prefer the i3. No random braking on the road, no crazy lane corrections. Not as powerful as the Tesla, but I drive in Eco, anyway.

I love Tesla for what they did for the EV market, but I'll happily attribute that to the original founders and engineers. M*sk was only PR; if the car was half as tech geeky they'd still be where they are today.

[–] Redfugee@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the biggest player in the electric vehicle game is having a rough year.

You couldn't tell by looking at the stock price.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

because tesla is basically just a pump and dump now considering the board are just musk stooges who greenlight anything he asks and investors are just musk cultists.

[–] djsp@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I would characterize Tesla stock not as a pump & dump scheme anymore, but as a bet on Musk's position to extract concessions from his political connections. He has got his way already with Trump planning to end EV subsidies that mostly benefited Tesla's competitors (although Trump may have intended to do so anyway) and he might yet push against regulation that would threaten Tesla's market position in the US, like federal charging standards. He may also get Trump to impose harsher tariffs on Chinese electrical vehicles than he otherwise would, although such tariffs enjoy bipartisan support.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 89 points 4 days ago (5 children)

It's slowly becoming a point of abject loathing. Many of us openly laugh at Tesla drivers, not in the least because they've taken the crown of "deadbeat drivers" from BMW & Mercedes a long time ago. See an asshole on the road? 66% chance it's a Tesla.

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 51 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

RIP Tesla. I will never buy one ever again and now champion against them amongst friends & family. Good riddance.

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[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 65 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Is there a point where Tesla's board will oust him to save the brand?

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 84 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I personally will never consider a product he's attached to.

[–] booganiganie@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'd support him being attached to one of his rockets at launch

[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

Nope. They are tied to the hip. From what I see the Board are just cashing out as it sinks.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 69 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm guessing Elon endorsing the "drive your car into a crowd of Christmas shoppers" party is not going to help.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

His own cars have already been doing that more than enough. So maybe he feels a bond with AfD over this incident?

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[–] asymmetric@slrpnk.net 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)
[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 43 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He's from Saudi Arabia but he hates islam and thinks the german government conspires to turn Germany into an Islamic country. He has ties to multiple AfD officials as evidenced by his Twitter account.

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago

Turns out the real terrorists were the fascists we made along the way...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You mean apart from parroting AfD talking points and retweeting Elon Musk?

The Elon Musk who endorsed the AfD before the man drove into the crowd?

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Good and I did not consider a Tesla when purchasing our first EV. We will continue to shop from the Tesla's competition until "Leon" rockets off to Mars.

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As much as I'd like to, I don't try starlink for the exact same reason. (Although Starlink has other reasons why I'm not going to give them any money)

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[–] LazyGit@feddit.org 50 points 4 days ago

Handed back my model 3 leasing car in September. As long as they are the right wing nutcase is involved I will not buy anything from them again.

[–] Rookeh@startrek.website 28 points 4 days ago

I have a Model 3 at the moment. I've had it for almost 5 years and it's generally been great - cheap to run, quiet and comfortable on longer trips but still fun to drive on back roads.

Recently it had its first major breakdown, and although Tesla service did manage to take care of it, it's got me browsing for new EVs - but now, buying a Tesla is not the foregone conclusion it once might have been.

First, they have been making some truly stupid design choices in their latest facelifts (deleting the indicator stalks and gear selector).

Second, their CEO has now gone completely mask-off fascist.

Third - after a few years for the competition to catch up, we now have genuine alternatives from other marques which are just as good if not better EVs than Tesla's offerings.

I think my next car will likely be a Polestar 2.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

overall EV registrations in Europe have remained stable as competing automakers gain ground.

Which competing car manufacturers are they so I can invest?

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

🤷 for some reason hybrids did really well in Europe this year. Probably because some countries have really shit charging infrastructure but people still want to emit less carbon.

The hybrids are bad though unless you live in a house and charge them at home. They don't have the hundreds of kW charging potential and if you charge them at work you often have to go move them during the day because you aren't allowed to leave them in the spot with the charger all day. Contrast this with an all electric vehicle that you can charge 200 km in five minutes at a gas tank.

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[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (22 children)

other automakers have stepped up to try and fill the gap left by Tesla,

Absolutely, IMO VW group has made a stellar job with the MEB platform, and are selling very good Electric cars at competitive prices.
VW group has of course the VW ID series, Skoda Enyaq and Elroq, Cupra Tavascan and Born, Audi E-Tron 4-6-8, Porsche Taycan.

This is a very impressive lineup IMO. And generally they have lower noise and better driving comfort than Tesla. Allegedly drive assist systems are way better than Tesla. No sudden phantom breaking, and no weird warnings about traffic that is completely irrelevant. Common for all is that they are all very good cars, without the weirdness of a Tesla. VW group has about 14 distinct models, so you have way better chance of finding a perfect fit than with Tesla.

Apart from that, if you don't give a shit politically, we also have some decent Chinese options. Xpeng is very attractive IMO.

The best selling EV here is the Skoda Enyaq, and that's absolutely with good reason, there is just about nothing to fault on that car IMO, it is also my own personal favorite, although I hate to go mainstream.

To quote Elon Musk:
You'd be a fool to buy ~~anything but~~ a Tesla today.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How come those gods of capitalism aren’t even that good at running businesses? Seems like the whole thing is a sham.

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