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He’s a father of a 28-year-old son and he’s hurting. A retired police officer, he proudly voted for Donald Trump every time he ran and never hid his political beliefs from his family. “My son and his wife say that since I’m a fan of Trump they’re no fan of mine and cut me off,” he said. “Now I can’t see my only grandchild who I was so close to. It’s crazy and it’s tragic.”

It’s also increasingly common. The 2024 election spatchcocked the nation, widening a rift that was exposed in 2016 and put in an even sharper gulf four years later. Now, the hyper-partisan politics in the shadow of the 2024 election is breaking the bonds of families to a greater extent than ever before.

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[–] onoira@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s crazy and it’s tragic.

take a drink every time a narc parent uses the words 'weird' or 'crazy' to describe being treated like the horrible person that they are.

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[–] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 84 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Choosing bonds of identity over familial obligations" has judgemental connotations.

The thing about "bonds of identity" is that those people respect your right to exist and your personal agency. The family that deserves to be cut off does not.

If you've had it explained to you multiple times why the decisions you make are harming the people you claim to love, and you don't change your behavior, don't be surprised when that person you say you care about tells you to piss up a rope.

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[–] cdf12345@lemm.ee 78 points 1 week ago

Yes, the grandfather is hurting and is clearly the victim. It cannot be due to his own choices and his children calling him out for being a shit person.

ACAB

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 55 points 1 week ago

How Assholes Have Become an Epidemic in America

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 51 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Like so many problems in modern America, you can trace it back to Reagan.

Back in the day, it was important for politicians to try and maintain a civil tone with one another in public, no matter how much they despised each other behind the scenes. Reagan publicly used 'Liberal' as a pejorative and implied that those who disagreed with him weren't really patriotic.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just want to point out that McCarthyism existed before Reaganism. But he was a big fucking fan of it.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And the Federalists and Democratic Republicans were wildly confrontational.

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Calendar on Adams in 1800...

"Ye will judge without regard to the prattle of a president, the prattle of that strange compound of ignorance and ferocity, of deceit and weakness; without regard to that hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."

That's just one example of many quotes from that time. There was some wildly vitriolic mud slinging in early American politics.

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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

When asked to reflect on how their actions and choices have lead to their families cutting them out, they responded "We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!"

[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It would be more than that if people had a place to go and a way to get there.

Also it's not just trumpism, it's that your family can be intelligent but fall for grifters... or they will be kind 90% of the time and then without prompt will casually say something really fucked up at dinner.

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This thing reads reads like the the person in the middle of the disagreement trying to broker peace.

[–] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Like a chicken. Where you split the breast so it can lay flat. To illustrate the deepening divide.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago

If you're not spatchcocking your country, you're just wasting time and ruining it's breasts to save it's thighs, really.

[–] enkille@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Removed our spines and flattened us to allow for more even cooking. If you remember when those dudes in black suits came around and did that to everyone, that's what this is referring to.

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