To be fair, he is only the future junior assistant deputy backup president.
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Look at the funny fascist over there, isn't he hilarious? Fun fact: a lot of people also made fun of Hitler.
What Trump actually said, in his opening remarks during the press conference, was as follows: “The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years, to ancient Rome …”
Edit: Even after reading this quote twice, I can't really understand what Trump wanted to say.
Edit: Even after reading this quote twice, I can’t really understand what Trump wanted to say.
Can anyone ever?
Imagine having to translate such nonsense.
The Olympics did it better
(More difficult than I imagined to find articles about it, there are plenty though from random sources)
It doesn’t matter if what he says makes sense or is true; if he says it confidently and double downs on it, people will be convinced (or be coerced to agree)
My take is that he sees himself as Julius Caesar reincarnate, who spelled the end of the Republic, and wants to be the first emperor of the USA. If you read about the last days of the Republic there are so many historically rhyming events that with the current state of America, a repeat of history seems almost inevitable. A spate of military wins means Rome becomes very rich very quickly, disband rival military power which leads to pirates and banditry, widespread extremes of wealth and poverty, politicians riling the public up into a frenzy with populist talking points, using corrupt judiciary system to punish their political opponents, plebs forcing themselves in on senate discussions, Krassus was a mega oligarch banker who bankrolled politicians and held debts as favours to call on, the Bona Dea scandal, Clodius being unceremoniously taken to court for sneaking into a women-only festival, who is betrayed by another political rival Sicero only to then be equitted (jury was bribed), and the subsequent crossing of the Rubicon by Caesar, leading to insurrection, more political assassinations, and the fall of the Republic.
I would say he is as spiteful and vengeful as Clodius (and feels wronged in the same way he did by the court cases against him), is as ambitious as Caesar, has Musk as his Krassus-figure backing him, craves attention and celebration of himself like Pompey, and thinks he is as important and catalytic to political change as the Gracchus brothers were.
Trump aspires to be as awful and as "great" as the conniving ruling class of ancient Rome, because he us just as morally bankrupt as many of them.
However all of these observations seem at odds with the way he presents himself - seemingly senile, lexicon of a five-year-old, and lacks any of the charisma and knack for timing that the great orators of the Senate had. In comparison, Trump as an isolated figure is but a skidmark compared to the intellectual brilliance of the Roman elite.
And it's from 2019. Why was this even posted?
Because somewhere, someone's Trump rage boner was starting to wilt just a bit.
Alright, you might wanna sit down for this. Hate to be the one breaking it to you, buuut the Internet is not always a rational place...
So we can mentally prepare ourselves for Trump 2, the idiotening.
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He means they're both White countries.
America was founded on Roman ideals. I mean look at our capital building. Not only is it built in a Roman style there's literally a mural of the founding fathers consulting with Roman gods.
It may be false but it isn't any better.
Isn't it some white nationalist shit about real whites being descendent of Rome?
We're all the descendants of when Hercules impregnated every female trojan as part of his 13th labour. You can read all about it in my book "The Da Vinci Code: Die Harder"
So the thing he actually said is even dumber.
Weird,
Trump already says a bunch of stupid shit on his own.
Not sure why someone would make the OP and make shit up.
I mean yeah, fascism.
he's talking about how fascists are obsessed with Rome and think they share white heritage or whatever
Wouldn't it be funny if we found out the native Americans and Romans had a long standing friendship, much like them and the Vikings and that's what he means.
Obviously he's just dribbling shit he thinks sounds smart, but it would be kinda funny.
I think he meant culture and politics has been similar since the time of ancient Rome, maybe thinking the United States existed that long ago.
It did not.
To play the ultimate Devil's Advocate, the Romans did leave a lasting cultural impact on Brittain. So in a way we have a cultural bloodline that is distantly connected to Rome.
Ridiculous, I suppose next you'll say that the US government has a senate that meets in a columned building!
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Thanks for the fact checking. You're doing God's work.
He thinks he's complimenting them by linking them to the Roman Empire. Also he's probably completely forgotten that democracy was created by the Greeks.
He said what he wanted to say. He's a fucking idiot that's got progressive dementia.
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This makes sense. How else could the US take over the British airports during the revolutionary war without our history with Rome?
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You know, I fucking hate Trump but I prefer to save my outrage about things he actually said and did. If you really wanna dunk on him, this ain't the time. Look at the actual quote:
"The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome."
I mean, I can't really disagree with that. I'm fucking SICK of journalists converting everything into clickbait. You want some things to be angry about? Here's some ACTUAL shit he did the same week:
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October 16, 2019: During a meeting with congressional leaders about the situation in Syria, President Trump reportedly referred to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as a "third-grade politician," leading to Pelosi and other Democratic leaders walking out of the meeting.
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October 17, 2019: At a campaign rally in Dallas, Texas, President Trump criticized the ongoing impeachment inquiry, labeling it a "witch hunt" and attacking political opponents, which some viewed as inflammatory rhetoric.
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October 18, 2019: President Trump announced a "permanent" ceasefire in Syria and lifted sanctions on Turkey. Critics argued that his decision to withdraw U.S. troops from northern Syria had enabled Turkish military actions against Kurdish forces, leading to regional instability.
If you want to be annoyed about Trump, there's plenty of actual shit he does. No need to make up shit just to get clicks. Fuck you lazy journalists!
“The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome.”
Yeah that's not actually incorrect too badly. Well perhaps the "bound together" bit but like history for the massive systems, yeah, it is somewhat shared. Common law and whatnot. Although Italy definitely doesn'tuse common law anymore so Trump would be better of comparing US to brits in that sense.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Why promote inaccurate bullshit and ignore the actual shit he does?
Oh wait, right, propaganda and shit "journalists".
Thanks for the info on those happenings, btw.
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I actually only just realized this implies Trump thinks the USA was allied with the Axis and the Nazis lmao
We went to war against them. That's how Trump treats his allies.
~~No one can be this stupid, surely?~~
the quote has been deliberately misrepresented
He actually said "The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome."
which could be inferred to be a reference to the large number of italian americans especially on the east coast and their effect on the US culture and the fact that much of the US political system is inspired by southern european governments. Ancient Rome had a senate too
Also that the Roman legislation principles is the foundation for all modern countries with a court, parlament and executive power. The American fumbling fathers even went so far as to copy many parts of it. Hence the name senate for instance. And much of the architecture was inspired or copied from Palladio. So you get that neoclassical look that is the hallmark of DC
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It ain’t a world war until Italy changes sides
Arguably Italy didn't change sides in WW2, they had a civil war that split it into fascist and not-fascist states.
It always boggles me how the hell he can even string a coherent sentence together
Can he?
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Anyone have the clip?
Please, I need this
Edit: Did it myself, so he did say it, but the translator face was a different incident
Ancient rome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgnBODcB-I
Funny translator face: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7nSlWu0ICI
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