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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I actually only just realized this implies Trump thinks the USA was allied with the Axis and the Nazis lmao

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

We went to war against them. That's how Trump treats his allies.

To be fair, he is only the future junior assistant deputy backup president.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Look at the funny fascist over there, isn't he hilarious? Fun fact: a lot of people also made fun of Hitler.

[–] cron@feddit.org 249 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (23 children)

False, according to snopes:

What Trump actually said, in his opening remarks during the press conference, was as follows: “The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years, to ancient Rome …”

Edit: Even after reading this quote twice, I can't really understand what Trump wanted to say.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 85 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Edit: Even after reading this quote twice, I can’t really understand what Trump wanted to say.

Can anyone ever?

[–] cron@feddit.org 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine having to translate such nonsense.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

The Olympics did it better

(More difficult than I imagined to find articles about it, there are plenty though from random sources)

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

It doesn’t matter if what he says makes sense or is true; if he says it confidently and double downs on it, people will be convinced (or be coerced to agree)

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[–] Infynis@midwest.social 34 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And it's from 2019. Why was this even posted?

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

Because somewhere, someone's Trump rage boner was starting to wilt just a bit.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 17 points 1 week ago

Alright, you might wanna sit down for this. Hate to be the one breaking it to you, buuut the Internet is not always a rational place...

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

So we can mentally prepare ourselves for Trump 2, the idiotening.

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 27 points 1 week ago

He means they're both White countries.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago

America was founded on Roman ideals. I mean look at our capital building. Not only is it built in a Roman style there's literally a mural of the founding fathers consulting with Roman gods.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

It may be false but it isn't any better.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't it some white nationalist shit about real whites being descendent of Rome?

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

We're all the descendants of when Hercules impregnated every female trojan as part of his 13th labour. You can read all about it in my book "The Da Vinci Code: Die Harder"

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

So the thing he actually said is even dumber.

[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago

Weird,

Trump already says a bunch of stupid shit on his own.

Not sure why someone would make the OP and make shit up.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I mean yeah, fascism.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

he's talking about how fascists are obsessed with Rome and think they share white heritage or whatever

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 8 points 1 week ago

Wouldn't it be funny if we found out the native Americans and Romans had a long standing friendship, much like them and the Vikings and that's what he means.

Obviously he's just dribbling shit he thinks sounds smart, but it would be kinda funny.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think he meant culture and politics has been similar since the time of ancient Rome, maybe thinking the United States existed that long ago.

It did not.

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (8 children)

To play the ultimate Devil's Advocate, the Romans did leave a lasting cultural impact on Brittain. So in a way we have a cultural bloodline that is distantly connected to Rome.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ridiculous, I suppose next you'll say that the US government has a senate that meets in a columned building!

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the fact checking. You're doing God's work.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

He thinks he's complimenting them by linking them to the Roman Empire. Also he's probably completely forgotten that democracy was created by the Greeks.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He said what he wanted to say. He's a fucking idiot that's got progressive dementia.

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[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This makes sense. How else could the US take over the British airports during the revolutionary war without our history with Rome?

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 66 points 1 week ago (4 children)

You know, I fucking hate Trump but I prefer to save my outrage about things he actually said and did. If you really wanna dunk on him, this ain't the time. Look at the actual quote:

"The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome."

I mean, I can't really disagree with that. I'm fucking SICK of journalists converting everything into clickbait. You want some things to be angry about? Here's some ACTUAL shit he did the same week:

  • October 16, 2019: During a meeting with congressional leaders about the situation in Syria, President Trump reportedly referred to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as a "third-grade politician," leading to Pelosi and other Democratic leaders walking out of the meeting.

  • October 17, 2019: At a campaign rally in Dallas, Texas, President Trump criticized the ongoing impeachment inquiry, labeling it a "witch hunt" and attacking political opponents, which some viewed as inflammatory rhetoric.

  • October 18, 2019: President Trump announced a "permanent" ceasefire in Syria and lifted sanctions on Turkey. Critics argued that his decision to withdraw U.S. troops from northern Syria had enabled Turkish military actions against Kurdish forces, leading to regional instability.

If you want to be annoyed about Trump, there's plenty of actual shit he does. No need to make up shit just to get clicks. Fuck you lazy journalists!

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

“The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome.”

Yeah that's not actually incorrect too badly. Well perhaps the "bound together" bit but like history for the massive systems, yeah, it is somewhat shared. Common law and whatnot. Although Italy definitely doesn'tuse common law anymore so Trump would be better of comparing US to brits in that sense.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Why promote inaccurate bullshit and ignore the actual shit he does?

Oh wait, right, propaganda and shit "journalists".

Thanks for the info on those happenings, btw.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump University, World History 101 and US History 101...

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[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago (17 children)
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[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

~~No one can be this stupid, surely?~~

the quote has been deliberately misrepresented

He actually said "The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome."

which could be inferred to be a reference to the large number of italian americans especially on the east coast and their effect on the US culture and the fact that much of the US political system is inspired by southern european governments. Ancient Rome had a senate too

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Also that the Roman legislation principles is the foundation for all modern countries with a court, parlament and executive power. The American fumbling fathers even went so far as to copy many parts of it. Hence the name senate for instance. And much of the architecture was inspired or copied from Palladio. So you get that neoclassical look that is the hallmark of DC

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It ain’t a world war until Italy changes sides

Arguably Italy didn't change sides in WW2, they had a civil war that split it into fascist and not-fascist states.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It always boggles me how the hell he can even string a coherent sentence together

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago
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[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Philip K Dick intensifies...

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[–] yourgodlucifer@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Please, I need this

Edit: Did it myself, so he did say it, but the translator face was a different incident

Ancient rome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgnBODcB-I

Funny translator face: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7nSlWu0ICI

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[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

ITT a bunch of ripe misinformation targets.

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