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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I did part of my training in the local VA, had a few dozen patients of mine that were covered by the VA, plus multiple uncles, a few aunts, my grandfather, and my father as well.

It can be a pain in the ass sometimes; they never have the full funding they should have, so it can take a while to get things done.

But, even back in the early nineties when I was there doing clinicals, it was overall a good place to interact with, with one exception, which I'll come back to.

It has been very rare for anyone I went there with to have providers of any level not do their best. The bureaucracy is where things can get annoying, but even there, it tends to work out. That's been consistent even when our closest one has to send a patient out to another facility for things they don't/can't do. It's actually hard to find much to complain about, and I'm never afraid to point out bullshit in the medical industry.

Now, back in the day was the one big exception.

This was in 92. I was a fucking punk kid, but I wanted to do something in the medical field with my life. Had since I was a little kid. A high school class I was taking would let you become a nurse's assistant if you stuck with it and passed with a high enough state test score (higher than what someone would have to get if they were one year older and went through a community college).

We'd go to pretty much every facility in three counties, getting basic hands on practice.

The VA, we'd rotate through departments every third day.

One department was dedicated to patients with AIDS. Now, back then it was still a death sentence, so I understood why people were scared. But the VA was treating the patients like shit. Outright neglect, which was definitely contributing to the speed at which people were dying.

Like I said, I get the fear. What I didn't accept was the bullshit of it. The nurses themselves pretending like the fear was an excuse for dereliction of duty. The ward was hard to staff, but it was voluntarily, and came with higher pay. So, no fucking excuse for not providing proper care; they could have opted out. And the administration was allowing it because they just wanted enough staff to keep up appearances, they did not give a fuck, in part because there was still the lingering idea that it was as "gay disease".

Obviously, not everyone involved thought that way, or I would never have heard about the behind the scenes part. But the nurses and doctors that were doing their job right were the minority, and working three times as hard just to cover the patients.

Fuck, there were twenty three of us in the class, and there were only three of us willing to do anything on the ward, one of whom's parents flipped out and stopped them.

It's also important to note that by then, it was clearly understood that following protocols would prevent any infection. The problem with that was the sharps protocol was disputed heavily by people that just refused to believe it. So it made people that didn't know the facts not know who to believe, nor where or how to get good facts. It was all a clusterfuck.

I'm still pissed about how those patients were treated. I did a second rotation through that ward because one of the nurses asked me to. We had hit it off. She ended up being my mentor and helped me out in a lot of ways. Fucking COVID killed her when she came out of retirement to help staff overload since she had icu experience.

That one experience originally had me soured on the VA. The rest of our VA was solid, but if the admins were willing to do that, I felt the whole thing was rotten. It took a few years before my opinion changed. Even then, it was longer before I stopped expecting the worst out of them.

[–] m_f@midwest.social 7 points 6 days ago

Thanks for writing that out. I posted it over in !bestoflemmy@lemmy.world

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 9 points 6 days ago

Wellllllllll....I've been 'interviewed' twice by the secret service. Fun trivia.

First time when I was in high school and in the printing class, made some prints of cash and was found out. School made a big deal, SS & the cops didn't. Got in house suspension and some restrictions in the class but eventually ended up designing and printing the 'funny money' used in the senior trip 'casino'. I love the irony.

Second time I was in the military and was passing through then Yugoslavia, which was still part of the Soviet Union, and we wrecked our car. Extended stay, court, a 200$ fine (some millions in local currency) and flew back to my base in England, which was a 'spy base', so had a lot of clandestine operations...and they didn't look fondly on someone going through a communist country without prior authorization...but then they determined it was as they suspected: I was (and probably still am) an utter dumbass.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Vet here, so USAF if that counts, and VA semi-regularly for joint and back physical therapy.

AF was a cluster fuck.

VA is consistently the best healthcare I receive, which seems to surprise most people I tell that to. I guess they used to be pretty shit, but made a ton of improvements in the last decade or so. ...just stay away from those sketchy-ass elevators. Riding those fucking things is probably way more dangerous than anything I ever did in the military.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

What did you do in the AF and how fucked was it?

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

4N1 - surgical tech. We're medics who work exclusively in the OR and aren't really medics. Fuckiness was 100% due to staffing. My last year I was doing three people's jobs... Typical day was 530a to anywhere from 7p to 11p.

Crunched the numbers against my pay and it came out to like $4 /hr lol.

Got the fuck out, now I'm a civilian surgical tech. First 8 hour shift after separating felt so weird. Like, it's time to go home? At 4p? Dafuq do I do with all this time??

Joke's on me - now I'm in nursing school ontop of working full time, so free time is gone again. Feels good actually working toward a goal though, vs grinding every night fantasizing about the best way to kill myself (that was my cue to go ahead and turn down a reenlistment lol).

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A buddy of mine went from active army to AF reserve and felt the same way the first time he got released from a drill weekend while the sun was still up

It sucks that jobs like that are so horribly undermanned. My guess is people who do med stuff don't even think of military as an option

Keep working at it and I hope you get some good payoff from it sounds like you deserve it!

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Thanks! Still a decent bit left of actual nursing school, but considering nursing together with all the other crap leading up to it like prereqs, it's definitely gotten to that light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel phase. Winter break right now though, woot!

My guess is people who do med stuff don’t even think of military as an option

I definitely didn't. Got the call from my recruiter saying I was going to be a surgical tech, and my response was pretty much "Cool! ...what the fuck is a surgical tech?". Zero medical background before all that. I think enlisted medical is mostly folks like me who go in knowing nothing and trained from the ground up.

Sounds like they rode a lot of elevators.

[–] m_f@midwest.social 4 points 6 days ago

I know someone that interviewed for the NSA. They take their background checks seriously. The person I know had agents knocking on the doors of their neighbors that they never met from houses that they moved out of years ago to see if the neighbors had anything negative to say about them.