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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 101 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (25 children)

I feel like a + shaped screw head would be as standard as a pyramid if multiple civilizations had developed screws independently. It wouldn't be the last kind, but it would be there somewhere. Maybe even a long, long time ago.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (5 children)

There are at least 3 standards for the + shape already. Phillips, Pozidrive, and Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS). They do not play well together.

insert obligatory xkcd standards reference

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Don't forget Frearson/Reed & Prince!

But wait, there's more!

And even more!

We only have standards so we can break'em.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

JIS has been obsoleted and replaced in Japanese products with the ISO Phillips bit shape. It still exists on lots of products pre 2000 though.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 100 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Its all fun and games until the Canadians show up.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As an American, we made a mistake in not adopting those. Torx or whatever isn't even as good.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 81 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Torx is better than whatever this Canadian abomination is. You'd only put pressure on the corners in a realistic setting. These would get rounded so fast unless they are massive, like on some differentials or gearbox oil drains.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This guy mechanics

Indeed torx is so good because it attempts to maximize the surface where pressure is applied to. This is good on smaller sized bolts that are more prone to being rounded, but especially amazing when removing bolts that may have been exposed and potentially corroded

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Never had or seen a stripped Robertson, they are robust AF. Don't ask me the physics. (They go deep into the screw head because of the simple shape, maybe that has part of it. And they are tapered, it's not just a square, so they manage to grip the bit like a mofo. You don't cam out of a Robertson.)

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[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Germany has entered the chat.

[–] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've stripped more internal hex than all other types combined

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[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

We have to go deeper.

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Disappointed that the first comment isn't, "May the Torx be with you"

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That may have been the actual post title I was looking for.

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

These aren’t the post titles you’re looking for… 👋

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[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] DonGirses@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thought it was gonna be the Phillip's head strip

[–] _thebrain_@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Even in a galaxy far far away everything is still made in china

Edit: at least they didn't use Phillips screws

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago

Can't get more spacey screws than those. They basically look like galaxies

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

That's because they were worried someone would have taken them off.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Turns out the laws of physics and geometry are the same everywhere.

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[–] Etterra 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey, if it works it works.

[–] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It works, but badly. All my homies hate cam-out and love torx.

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[–] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (23 children)

Can we all agree that flathead should be outlawed and Phillips needs to get phased out with a quickness

Why are there so many fasteners 8min : https://youtu.be/5cA9bZRHpZE

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Officially, "flathead" refers to countersunk screws. Slotted screws are terrible for my purposes, but they actually do have 1 advantage. If they get mud or something caked up in the slot it's relatively easy to use a knife or some other pointy thing to clean it out. Guns and other things used in dirty environments often use slotted fasteners for that reason.

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Somehow, Phillips head survived.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ironically enough other standards appeared because of the need of more torque.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Um, actually, those are rigid kal'dron adjustment pins used to correct focus crystal orientation.

[–] TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 16 points 1 week ago

Preventing cam-out with a Phillips screw is like learning the ways of the Force. It takes patience and skill, something the Empire’s rigid Torx would never understand.

[–] dan@upvote.au 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You'd think that they would have switched to Pozidriv.

[–] mycelium_underground@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Why? Torx is better in every way. If you are going to change, why half ass it to Phillips 2.0

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[–] HootinNHollerin@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 week ago

Bet it’s an inch screw too

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

No wonder the Jedi failed.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Where do you think we got it from?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

May the Philips be with you.

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