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[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 106 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

"NOOOOOOO you have to pick one of the two teams or you're a RADICAL CENTRIST!!!!"

[–] Astronauticaldb@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not really the point, but that's a funny little oxymoron; to be a radical anything you'd need to be actually committed to something so much that you want to do actual ground work to further a cause.

[–] sazey@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Radical centrism:

^needs ^more ^jpeg, ^I ^know

[–] RarePossum@programming.dev 11 points 2 weeks ago

You could've gone with Radial centrism though

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

It is a real thing but the term radical is used a bit different

The radical in the term refers to a willingness on the part of most radical centrists to call for fundamental reform of institutions.[1] The centrism refers to a belief that genuine solutions require realism and pragmatism, not just idealism and emotion

So not radical as in extremist action but radical change

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[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 106 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)

Remember folks: China is communist in the same way that North Korea is democratic and the Nazis were socialist.

It's just a smokescreen.

[–] JWayn596@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

A core tenant of socialism is a democratized workplace, being able to vote for your wage and company policy, like an Engineer choosing when to launch the rocket instead of some MBS degree.

Last time I checked I dont think factory workers in China that make all our shit can do that.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. That was the point of what they posted. None of those groups are what they claim to be beyond nominally.

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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (55 children)

Eh, there's a notional aspiration to socialism at least, which is more than can be said about the US sphere of countries.

In practice though? Yeah, China is hyper-captialist, without much of the social security present in wealthier countries.

Why Leftist get a hard-on for the former USSR, Russia and China, or frankly any country, is beyond me.

There are positive and negative outcomes in line or against socialist ideals everywhere (I think people are too black and white about China in both directions personally)

I just do not understand simping for any country, just because they are "socialist".

[–] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That notional aspiration to socialism is basically the ideological smokescreen. It was much more effective in the Cold War era, but it condenses down to: "Suffer through our version of (state) capitalism and exploitative labour for our capital accumulation" - be it by state institutions or even state-sponsored billionaires - "and at the end of it, we promise, there will be communism."

But that "communism" then tends to be like nuclear fusion - always 20 years away.

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[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 76 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You are banned from /c/hexbear

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

lemmygrad, and lemmy.ml 😭

Learnt this the hard way, my first account was on lemmy.ml

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lemmy.ml is a default instance, so many newbies start there and find out how the admins operate there. So that's a funny thing with lemmy

[–] guy@piefed.social 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I chose it as my first instance since I wanted a leftist one. Oh boy did I earn an experience

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's easy, mmmm'kay!

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

This is just like how I can praise so many things about China, push back against anti-China US propaganda, and still not pretend it isn’t an authoritarian regime where Xi made himself essentially life time president now.

Speaking of that, are there any left leaning subs that aren’t delusional?

[–] ne0n@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

If you find one, let us know

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Really though, the level of imperialism apologizing I've seen has been pretty humorous on this platform. Like people will say with a straight face that we need to support our client state Israel to secure our regional interests. It's the same song and dance from the concert of Europe giving guns to the corrupt African client kings so they can murder the other guy's corrupt African client kings. All for the noble civilizing influence of the state. But this time it'll turn out different. Just like it was different every other fucking time an empire ideologically justified it's imperialism. Because this one time is exceptional, unlike all the other instances of exceptionalism. Furthermore, I consider Carthage to need to be destroyed

[–] RustyEarthfire@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Really though, the level of imperialism apologizing I’ve seen has been pretty humorous on this platform. Like people will say with a straight face that we need to support our client state Israel to secure our regional interests.

Is this being federated from some platform other than Lemmy? Because I have literally never seen someone support that position here.

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No no, you don't understand. America bad, therefore anything against America is automatically good. It doesn't matter who it is or what they do.

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[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

As a Venezuelan who's against Yankee imperialism and our current oppressive """""Socialist""""" government, I approve this message.

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[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

I think people should separate

A) ideal world they want
B) what has to be done now to survive because everyone is an asshole

[–] hark@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

The US is the biggest source of imperialism in the world. We don't have to always follow that up with "butwhatabout" to distract from that, which is what the US media machine does by running stories all the time to manufacture consent for its own imperialism.

[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Someone had their Chomsky-o’s for breakfast this morning.

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[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How is this a shitpost? there's no shit!

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