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[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 136 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If he's truly evil and did the killing for shits and giggles, then yes.

His obvious motive was out of frustration of the insurance company.

I think he's nervous and out of his mind scared that he'll eventually get caught.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 77 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I wonder… jury nullification is a thing… and when the jury is selected, i wonder if the prosecutors will aim for low aged people… because what are the odds that the elderly general public didn’t get screwed over by their health care provider? Yet the younger crowd is all for that eating the rich thing… i guess they will have to fill the jury with CEO’s

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My friend made a good point…it’s better for United health and the ownership class if he doesn’t get caught

The media is trying hard to spin this one - how are they going to spin his story to make it not look justified? Was it his wife? His child? Himself? All of the above?

If he gets to tell his story, I’m certain it’s going to make this look even more justified. People who get their news mostly from mainstream media might have sympathy for the victim now, but letting him tell his story, or even becoming a martyr

[–] Rbnsft@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago

Yes gather them all in one place. Maybe we get a second trial afterwards

[–] activ8r@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if a good lawyer could argue that any jury that finds him guilty are, by definition, not his peers.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don’t see that working even if the court system hadn’t evolved into an apparatus solely for the enforcement of class strata. His peers are the general public.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

It must be vindicating regardless. People don't want to help the cops. They're laughing at the CEOs. Jury nullification and how to pass jury selection is being memed to hell.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think evilness defines whether he would allow himself a giggle-kicking fit.

His biggest concern is likely the concern that investigators are on his tail, that his file is open and hot, and that he's surveillance aware but knows he can't be perfect, so his freedom and how long it lasts depends a good part on luck. While this stressor might be crushing (it would me) he may be able to manage it and push it out of the way long enough to enjoy his newfound notoriety, and even express some energetic glee over it.

Another concern (which is where we wonder about evil) is coming to terms with recognizing he took another human life with planning and malice. He committed murder. The capacity to commit murder doesn't come to everyone, and many people can't. But then we also have a robust military in which a lot of people do kill, or find at least they have the capacity to suppress their empathy enough to kill. Our assassin didn't hesitate. It doesn't make him evil (which is a judgement usually appointed to fictional persons by the author or readers) but it does put him in the same category as all whodunnit culprits, someone with the capacity to kill if circumstances warrant it.

But again, it's a matter of whether he's able to manage his moral concerns, or is already good with it. Then it's a matter of whether it's in character for him to indulge in a giggle and a kick. (I would.)

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

No probably he’s still grieving for his loved one who died as a direct result of their medical care claim getting denied (& I promise you Chipmunk Cheek’s rich sociopath family is looking at every record in their business to find out who they ficked over so bad)

And if he’s really smart he’d stay offline entirely for a long while

But I bet he knows, without that modern psychosis (having to constantly know what people say about you online), what a difference he made 🙏

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

(& I promise you Chipmunk Cheek’s rich sociopath family is looking at every record in their business to find out who they ficked over so bad)

Having fought with UHC to get curative cancer surgeries approved, I promise you, that list is so long as to be basically useless. They're looking for a single fish in the Pacific Ocean here, and it's their own fucking fault. (I have literally had them approve the excision of a malignant melanoma, but require prior authorization for the 10cm diameter skin graft to repair the area excised because the procedure code technically falls under the plastic surgery heading.

They don't even look at what the procedure is or what it's for. All procedures and billing codes fall under various headings and more than half of them fall under headings that require prior authorization with a massive pile of documentation and justification attached.

I've also had them get pissy about things like medically necessary panniculectomies (removal of the skin/fat apron at the bottom of the abdomen) for someone that lost about 200lbs and was getting literal necrosis of the skin in the fold because of the irritation and friction from the pannus. Like, yes, I know that sometimes panniculectomies can be borderline-cosmetic, but this poor lady had over a foot of overhang after her diligent weight loss from diet and exercise and she had already had one hospitalization for sepsis from the severity of the skin infection from the skin breakdown. I had to submit those hospitalization records and 3 sets of photographs of the skin breakdown from 3 separate appointments to prove that it was a consistent problem.

If you can't tell, I am very angry about how insurance authorization works and I have intimate knowledge of the process. It drives me absolutely mad that people with MD, DO, or international medical degrees with no knowledge or expertise in the specialty at hand are the ones that review the appeals for the automatic denials. UHC was by far the worst offender and they deserve everything coming their way.

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gods. Gods. I’m so sorry this has happened to you & I wish any words could do anything but: I read this, lots of strangers here did, & you telling your story made a fucking difference. I hope everyone in this situation gets what they deserve, & most of all you who deserves healing and health and care

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

I just want to clarify that these stories are about patients I have cared for. I have had my own personal fights with insurance regarding coverage for life-preserving medications and diagnostic testing for damage caused by incorrect medications that I used to be on, but what I discussed here are other people whose medical care I was involved in.

[–] NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.org 12 points 2 weeks ago

probably he’s still grieving for his loved one who died as a direct result of their medical care claim getting denied

Another scenario that seems likely to me is that he's only got a few weeks or maybe months left to live himself due to a denied claim.

[–] needanke@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Apperently he was his loved one (was denied treatment himself)

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If he was smart he fled somewhere without an extradition treaty.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I somehow think he went on a bus, and then just took a bus back and is now just walking around in new york. Everyone thinks he has fled but they got nothing on him, so why leave. That would be more suspicious actually than just going about your everyday life.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That assumes he lives in NYC.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

That's true. Or that he moved to the scene of the crime. Which would be a pretty chad move tbh.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

His face is burned, right? He goes in front of any camera owned by the right agency and the facial recognition software does its thing?

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And if that wasn't possible, fleeing to some remote wilderness is the next best option for him.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Unless he was a pro assassin and survivalist. The option I would go with is a trusted friend (not family member) outside of the state that he could live with in their basement or something while growing a beard and somehow his general look.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's another good option. Though it's in some ways more risky.

Either way, growing a bitchin ass beard is probably one of his next steps.

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The video of cops wandering around central park probably got a giggle.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm thinking now if you're going to commit a crime, have TWO of what you're wearing, or more, and scatter decoys around your escape route filled with random shit, like monopoly money.

no way that was left by mistake, this was a little more thought out than random murder. dudes in the wind 1000%, never getting caught.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

The police have a very low success rate for "random" killings like this.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Seems like they got him :c

[–] maryjayjay@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

A name to rally behind like this is good.

And The Adjuster is the perfect name.

[–] _ffiresticks_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not anymore, they just caught him in Pennsylvania.

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

Well, they caught someone.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's probably doing his best to grow a beard. He looks suspciously clean-shaven on the pictures and a beard (and glasses instead of contacts) might be enough to fool facial recognition.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 2 weeks ago

The guy smiling on the pictures shown by police is probably not the shooter. The jacket is completely different.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

But did he order his commemorative shirt yet?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"Bicycle assassin"? Did I miss something?

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

the guy who shot the CEO in New York. fled the scene on a bike.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 12 points 2 weeks ago

The Adjuster