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[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's it odd how the media picks and chooses who to call out on making "too much" money.

She must be the wrong type of millionaire or something

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

She must be the wrong type of millionaire or something

She isn't one at all, she's a billionaire, and she's definitely not a fucking victim.

If anything, it's her fellow billionaires not getting enough shit, not her getting too much.

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[–] gazter@aussie.zone 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

From my quick look at the source, this headline is just plain wrong. They simply multiply concert attendance by ticket price and call that Swift's earnings. I'm assuming that other people need to be paid from those sales- like, I dunno, the production team, the dancers, the suppliers of staging, the ticket distributor, the cleanup crew, the people who make the lunch for the crew, the people who supply the ingredients for the lunch, the people who co-ordinate the vehicles that deliver the ingredients, the website design team, the stadiums themselves...

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Without weighing in on the subject of TS being a billionaire, it's just a terribly written article. Essentially just repeats the same phrases over and over about a handful of different states.

~~Also, where the fuck did they get an average lifespan of 47.9 years???~~

~~> residents would still need to work a whopping 215 years, or 4.59 lifetimes...~~

~~215 / 4.59 = 47.98~~

My mistake. It didn't click for me that the article is talking about working years, not lifespan. Still a shittily written article.

[–] GreatRam@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, you don't work your whole life. If you start working at 19 and work until retirement age(67) that's 48 years

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Damn, you're right. I absolutely did not make that connection. Updated.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

It's probably LLM ("AI") generated. As we all are probably aware now, it's anything but intelligent. It just says bullshit confidently. The average lifespan number probably comes from some third world countries wiki page or something, but it doesn't understand context and just uses pattern matching to fill in the next expected word. It doesn't know what the information came from or how to apply it to other information.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Ticketmaster takes something like half straight off the top. Then there's a separate venue owner much of the time, concessions, technical staff, security, medical, and finally Swift's staff who build the stage and maintain her equipment, any other talent on stage and then, the last person to get paid is Taylor Swift.

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It does specifically say revenue of a single show. Which as far as I'm concerned would include all ticket sales even if the proceeds from those sales don't entirely go to Taylor. Though I do agree the headline is a bit disingenuous. If I'm being generous I'd say they're referring to Taylor Swift the money making apparatus and less so Taylor Swift the person.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

They repeatedly say "Taylor Swift earns". If they were concerned at all about presenting information properly, they would say "gross income from a Taylor Swift concert". It's outrage clickbait, through and through. While I agree that Swift makes an outrageous amount of money, that outrage should be based on fact, not hyperbole.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 month ago
[–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Here is my wild take: Making that much money by performing a concert is perfectly fine. Performing a concert is work. People who went there clearly consent to that.

In my opinion, this is different to making money by investing that is meaning making money by just owning stuff.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sure she has financial managers to keep her earned money working for her by investing in stocks and bonds and such.

[–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Probably. And that is problematic. But it is a completely different criticism.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Why is that problematic? Is it because you think that that is even possible is bad? Or that her investing her money is bad.

I'm genuinely curious.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Right - this is not passive income. She's just massively in-demand, and can only exist in one place at a time.

How much goes to everyone else at the venue would be a different conversation.

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

yes let's defend the work ethic of Taylor swift, singer who definitely didn't famously have rich parents who essentially made her success happen

[–] MikeOxlong@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The article doesn’t really specify, but it looks like they’re pretending she keeps all the money to herself. Weird comparison.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've heard she pays her people pretty well, but I'm not in that industry so idk.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I'd say her being the only person able to get anything produced during the SAG-AFTRA strikes is why she's being targeted. She proved that meeting their demands is still profitable.

https://fortune.com/2023/09/19/how-taylor-swift-made-eras-tour-movie-during-hollywood-strike/

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

And she's not on the list of the top richest people in the world.

If you look at her life style, she's not doing much better than Mick Jagger or Michael Jackson were when they were at the top.

On the other hand, look at the salaries of executives. CEOs who used to make 50 times what their employees made are a thing of the distant past.

[–] br0da@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Not specific to TS but for me personally, I’m just fucking sick of billionaires in this day and age. When so many are struggling just to make ends meet. It’s not their fault they’re this disgustingly rich, but it doesn’t make their unbalanced existence on this planet any easier to digest.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It’s not their fault they’re this disgustingly rich

Whose fucking fault is it then????

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The people who very loyally buy her tickets and her songs. She is rich because her product sells a lot. That's it. If I made a product that sells a lot, be in high demand, and had a fanatic following, I would be rich as well.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Grosses, right? Do I need to wade into the article to find out where the math errors and artistic license are on reporting the income for someone I don't know, will never know, and don't much care about?

She sings well. She presents as a decent person. She's making a lot of money providing a non-essential service people are dumping loads of discretionary spending on, and ancillary businesses in her touring path feel some osmotic benefit.

Cool.

Can we prioritize the Galen Westons and Trumps of the world for our hate and scorn? They seem to be doing far worse on a smaller scale that needs to be smaller still.

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[–] Roopappy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm all for trashing Healthcare CEO billionaires, but dammit... TayTay earns her money and doesn't intentionally kill anyone doing it.

No billionaire is an ethical billionaire

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Capitalism is a system based on exploitation. She takes far, far, far more than her fair share, leading to others losing out.

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[–] Doll_Tow_Jet-ski@fedia.io 11 points 1 month ago (10 children)

There are hundreds of famous billionaires. Why the focus on her?

[–] Phineaz@feddit.org 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Strong public perception. Swift is often portrayed as a front runner of liberated women and modern (however-manyth wave) feminism as well as "woke" (I really hate that word) lifestyle aka pluralistic and aware of socioeconomic issues, which certain people don't like. At the same time Swift was cited as one of the "worst" private jet owners for having taken the highest number of private flights in a certain group and timeframe (citation gravely needed). She is easy to attack due to the (supposedly) high moral standard people attribute to her image. Probably comparable to Gates in this regard.

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[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Tax them or shut the fuck up about it

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[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No one should be that rich. At the same time, thousands of people won't show up to hear me sing.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

She also has a giant amount of people she pays with those earnings. Not saying she isn't filthy rich, but she is an artist, writes most of her own words and music, and fought really hard to get compensated for it.

I respect her for all of that. She probably also does a ton of charity. What she does is not easy. Most people can't even write a verse/chorus/verse/chorus lyric that works, let alone piano and guitar. Actually make it so other people enjoy it, and perform that shit night after night all over the world. That's a shit ton of traveling, setting up, doing the set, tearing all of that huge production down, and moving on to the next gig.

I don't listen to her at all, but I admire the amount of effort ot takes to do it. She's not some CEO with a laptop flying around meeting other CEOs for drinks. People like her work hard. Other acts that do that have earned thier money too. Metallica, Rolling Stones, what have you. They write and perform and bust ass far more than you and me ever will.

I wasn't expecting that to pour out of me, i apologize. Lol

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

All good!

I would say busting ass doesn't scale your success, but will agree it is a prerequisite. A lot of people with talent and work ethic don't make it anywhere. Your force multiplier is opportunity, and that is scarce and unevenly distributed.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I like her though so it's fine! /s

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