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Lefty Memes

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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, updooting good contributions and downdooting those of low-quality!

Rules

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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.


2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such


That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.


3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.


That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


4. No Bigotry.


The only dangerous minority is the rich.


5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)


6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.



  1. Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 115 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

I got banned from /c/news for "advocating" violence after making a joke about not being able to identify the suspect in the UnitedHealth CEO thread.

Edit: Remember violence is reserved for the government to oppress people. You are supposed to just sit there and take it.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Same. Joked about starting a gofundme for the shooter. I thought better of Lemmy. Ah well.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

Just like reddit it's all about who's the mods/admins.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago

Not all lemmy is the same. The beauty is that you can definitelly find comms which won't ban you for that

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

News mods are the most thin skinned mods I see on lemmy

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a reason most of us have .world instance blocked.

I'm sure there's some poor mod on there in a community that just unfortunately was started on there, but genuinely it's a better lemmy experience without.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The people talking in this particular thread, and OP, kind of seem like they don’t realize Lemmy isn’t just Lemmy.world.

Like does OP realize that this community is on db0 and isn’t subject to the rules on the .world instance?

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I got banned for the same thing as well idgaf. /c/News and /c/worldnews are liberal hell holes anyway

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 101 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 14 points 3 weeks ago

That rabbit's dynamite!

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 100 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

It’s not against the TOS. You can advocate for violence against the poor and minorities all day on here. But advocating for them to defend themselves is apparently over the line.

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 97 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Notice how hard they’re going after the shooter? The NYPD is actually making an effort for once and the FBI is involved even though there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that this is a federal matter (has the shooter crossed state lines? Has the victim’s civil rights been violated?). We’ve always known that law enforcement is for them and not us but it’s pretty blatant.

I’d say “you get what you pay for“ but the C suite doesn’t pay taxes.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

It would be funny if people spammed the tip lines with thousands of fake sightings of the guy.

[–] clashorcrashman@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago

They're offering a 10k bounty for anyone with good intel. But I'm pretty sure nobody saw anything.

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[–] intresteph 27 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

I’ve noticed most communities have been overtaken by, at best, centrist mods. Most of whom have power issues, and ban for personal reasons. Looking at you JonsJava, jeffw.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh

I say some wild shit and they just tell me to stop wilding

Except for FlyingSquid, because he doesn't want to admit Israel is using religion as an excuse for genocide for some weird reason.

[–] intresteph 15 points 3 weeks ago

Oh yeah them too.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago (50 children)

just pointing out that this type of censorship goes hand in hand with attempting to defed/disaggregate .world from the more left wing lemmies.

[–] Moc@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Should I be moving my account to ml or other, then?

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

If you want the best of both worlds, Midwest has access to both, though I do have to block quite a few .world comms because I can’t stand the users’ ~~irrational hatred of~~ obsession with dunking on leftists (edit: and pearl clutching).

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

ml still has access to hexbear/grad and .world so it's my preferred instance just so I don't need to account switch just to browse the different perspectives

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think it’s a lot of the same problem with every social media platform. There’s simply a lot of government agents and private partners that get into positions to moderate and control online speech platforms. It’s how they maintain their power. By controlling what we are allowed to talk about, which never includes speech that’s a threat to their position and power.

Look at how many executives at Facebook are former IDF or CIA. Reddit admins used to have a blogpost up that their highest traffic source came from a government astroturfing farm at Eglin Air Force base. This isn’t a conspiracy. They’re very open about what they’re doing. They have so much control at this point, they no longer feel the need to operate covertly. They spend a great deal of time and money making sure they own the people who moderate the biggest communities, or the admins who can overrule them.

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[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

on here

Do you think that all Lemmy is just your instance? What does “on here” mean in this context to you?

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 54 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)
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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 weeks ago

I support the idea of giving bunnies to horrible rich people, in order to warm their hearts and get them to change their ways. But it is important to note that even if you successfully bun down one person (that is to say, get someone to stop being evil by giving them a bunny), the system will find someone else to take their place. Ideally, you want to establish a credible promise that you'll provide bunnies whenever they go too far and hurt people with their actions, but that's not really something that can be accomplished on an individual level. That's just too many bunnies for one person to take care of, and if anything happens to you, who will take care of them?

In order to ensure consistent delivery of bunnies, what you really need is an organization and a support network. Of course, not everyone needs to be the one out there handing out bunnies. You might be surprised how hard it is to secure transportation and a safe place to stay when you're travelling with a furry friend, and you might run into trouble if you're trying to leave town after the fact, but your clothes are all covered in fur.

The way I see it, promises are what make the world go 'round. Yeah, you can just pull out a bunny and surprise someone and that's cool and good, but when you only have so many bunnies to hand out, ideally you just want to communicate what behavior will warrant a response so that they can avoid that behavior in the future (in order to avoid ending up getting overwhelmed by joy).

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Animaniacs did a whole segment on Bun Control as a way to reduce Bun Violence.

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[–] zeroday@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I've got a story idea for a cyberpunk dystopia. Imagine a world almost identical to ours. In that world, some inventive person creates a darknet website that allows anonymous donations to put bounties on corporate executives. Now, this site's creator wants to make sure their site isn't misused, so they implement guardrails like "Targets would be required to have over $10M in assets" and "each crypto wallet may contribute a maximum of $5 so it better reflects the will of the people."

Then, the site admin adds betting options like "who reaches a $1M bounty first", over/under odds, betting on which target gets whacked first, etc, in order to draw traffic to the site. Maybe there'd also be a percentage of the bounty that's paid out to organizations working to heal the damage caused by the target, so for example if a fossil-fuel exec gets whacked then that percentage goes to orgs working to stop fossil fuels.

How do you think it'd play out in this story? Would the site properly incentivize people to shoot up boardrooms rather than schools?

I think that site would be fulla feds but then again what site isn't?

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I got banned from reddit for suggesting we give nazis "miniature pineapples".

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 19 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I think a guillotine is not violent at all, actually kinda merciful. It's sends a message tho, don't it?

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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago

don't mind the foam around their mouths. they're just happy to see you!

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I hope they all have a very nice time.

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