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[–] AGD4@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not to take this post too seriously, but why wouldn't the holodeck simulate aging, as well?

If growth and aging were not a part of their universe then Moriarty and the Countess would go insane during their "lifetime of exploration and adventure".

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The first time they dealt with him, he was supposed to be paused basically. It was quite a shock to everyone when he told them he was conscious the entire time they had him stored in memory. It was the second time he showed up that they put him in The Matrix.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would they go insane? They were aware they were holograms even though they thought they escaped.

[–] AGD4@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I meant they'd go insane with their presumed immortality.

Did Moriarty want to be conscious for eternity?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't understand where insanity enters into it. Or immortality, unless you think their cube would last forever.

[–] AGD4@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I said "Presumed immortality". Meaning Moriarty presumed he would live forever. They did not know they were in a memory cube. They had no reason to believe they wouldn't exist forever, as a hologram manifested into reality.

Now if the concept of desiring death in the face of immortality is foreign to you, then I invite you to watch Season 2 Episode 18 of Star Trek Voyager: Death Wish

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The concept of immortality is foreign to everyone because it's a fictional concept.

And as a fictional concept, you can certainly say that another fictional concept- holodeck characters in yet another fictional concept- a storage cube, wouldn't go insane.

So what you're saying still makes no sense to me. You're acting as if there are rules here.

[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty sure that episode is clear that it wasn’t the actual saved Moriarty program.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True, it was basically data’s memory of Moriarty. But that actually makes it even stranger that it aged.

[–] Rubisco@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Picard Season 3, Episode 6 "The Bounty"

[–] Rubisco@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago

Ahhh, that explains it. Thanks!