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[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Trump is an idiot. If he actually cared about US power, he wouldn't give Xi this opportunity.

It doesn't matter if it is bullshit or not, the fact that Xi can even make these comments, in a credible manner will hurt US trade relations and by extension, power.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Or is Trump doing what Putin tells him to do because Putin does what Xi tells him to do?

That's sure how it seems like it's worked out.

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

Trump, and a large portion of the US electorate, don't understand soft power. The idea of propping others up helps yourself; of graciously taking a back seat in one area to strengthen your position in another. It's fucking infuriating, and it's going to have ramifications long after Trump joins Kissinger.

[–] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

Whoa there buddy, you’d better ease up on those pragmatic and reasonable opinions there! That’s far too rational for round these parts. ;)

I think it’s going to be increasingly difficult to not pull your hair out over the next four (at best) years. I remember breathing a sigh of relief when Biden got in, not because I agree with his politics (I’m not American and don’t live there either), but because I was so tired of looking at whatever the orange idiot had done the day before and thinking “why would you do that”?! This time will be worse.

I hate how stressful it is for everyone else in the planet when the world’s largest economy is being run by a toddler

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

MLs about to become free trade advocates.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Their current argument is "Marx said you have to go through capitalism to get to communism."

Which somehow doesn't apply to every Western country. And also somehow their backsliding into capitalism after Mao isn't relevant.

Anyway, any country with over 800 billionaires is going to let the workers control the means of production any day now.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How very communist of him.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago

They love to seize

[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 1 day ago

And the fact that Xi is meeting all of US allies signify that spread of influence and allies will be skeptical.

Nice going Trump, fucking moron.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

Fash power struggles just keep on keeping on

[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We outsourced everything we could for cheaper products and now we're pissed that those countries are developing their economies. Wait until the BRICS don't need western markets anymore, then shit will get real.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Wait until the BRICS don’t need western markets anymore

I can't envision that being a thing in a global economy. It's like saying wait until they don't want to make more money.