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I mean jesus christ there was a slight dip in turnout for the MAGA people but 15 million dropped off the face of the planet for the Dems from 2020. That's gotta be fucking historic. I do hope this will be a radicalising moment for a lot of well-intentioned liberals.

They fumbled 4 states that Biden flipped, and Trump came pretty fucking close to flipping NY. If this doesn't awaken people to the political dead end that is the Democratic party I don't know what will.

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[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 82 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Virginia also almost flipped for Trump. Harris Won by like 52-47 when the polls had her 10 points ahead. Shows you what the Cheneys accomplished in Ratheon Acres.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

NJ was also way closer than usual

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"They almost lost New Jersey. Liz Cheney? What were they thinking? That's not appealing to democratic voters." He takes off his reading glasses and he puts down the New York Times. They're at the Bing and they are about to eat. After Silvio's comment Christopher and Paulie go at it.

"Maybe she was the wrong - whatchamacallit... Surrogat?"

"Ohhhhh! Listen to Mr. Pundit over here. Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh."

"At least I show an interest in the world."

"Mr. Pundit. Heh-heh-heh-heh."

Tony is coming in just as Silvio says "Surrogate," like a pronunciation coach

Tony is annoyed and looks with Silvio with venom and says "No politics." He pauses for effect. "Do we have a problem?"

"No Tony," says Silvio meekly.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean the only dems on that show would be psychologist, music producer, and tony’s daughter. Son would be posting here

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

music producer

I dunno. I think Massive Genius would be GOP for low taxes. But he might pretend to be a democrat.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jewish music producer in new york🤔🤔🤔

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hesh would also be GOP for low taxes and Israel.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Might find evangelicals little uncomfy. I mean schumer is new york senator, I don’t see much contradiction. Probably uses some tax loophole over royalties on edison machine music left to him by local dems

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably uses some tax loophole over royalties on edison machine music left to him by local dems

Hmm... Could be.

Schumer

Oh, that fucker. I hate even seeing his name. The only thing he gives a crap about in American politics is getting reelected. He's never lost an election. And he's a spritely 73 so I'm sure he wants to stay in congress at least another decade or so. I just realized that at Bluesky I haven't seen one, single post about the need to reform the democratic party and I have a two feeds dedicated to politics.

Libs there blame the media for being too soft on the GOP (especially Trump) and too hard on the dems (especially Kamala). Or they blame Russia. Or they say voters are stupid and racist. Or they say Kamala did everything right and Trump was just too popular. Or they're BlueAnon. I didn't expect to see more than a few "reform the democrats" post but so far - zero. It's horror-comedy to me.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Leftie twitter is in full knives out mode tbh, which is darkly funny, sadly they don’t have power.

I’ve seen nlr posters dunking on dissent libs, some economically minded tearing their hair over dnc and stencil dipshittery with vibecession. (Have not yet even touched funny-clown-hammer parts of shitlibs, probably won’t for self preservation)

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Really! They nearly lost like 50 electoral votes in the mid Atlantic

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago
[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ray* Acres is the place for me
Military is the life for me
Land spreadin' out so far and wide
Keep Manhattan, just give me that countryside

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*Raytheon has too many syllables.

Green Acres theme

I haven't thought about that song for decades but the words "Raytheon Acres" made me think of it almost immediately.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

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[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 79 points 1 week ago (3 children)

supposedly the drop in democratic voters was because everyone in 2020 did mail in ballots because of the pandemic, and that easy method of voting was not available as widely in 2024.

which means democrats fucked up by not passing a law making mail in ballots universal.

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The fact that Biden and the dems couldn’t get voter reform passed is honestly pathetic. I know Sinema was doing… her thing. But you can’t tell me the political parties don’t get real dirty (like threatening the lives of family members or something) when they really need someone to fall in line.

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago

Manchin's daughter was RIGHT THERE the WHOLE TIME

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

Wait for them to go on vacation

Drone strike them

Replace them with party loyalists

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 51 points 1 week ago

100-com my tbought too. Yet another way dems blow every possible advantage, becayse they'd rather lose supporting the status quo than win by being even a hair left of dick cheney

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago

You got me curious so I went looking for numbers and I think you're right.

2020

Total Early Votes: 101,453,111 • In-Person Votes: 35,811,062 • Mail Ballots Returned: 65,642,049 • Mail Ballots Outstanding: 26,576,729 Voters have requested a total of 92,218,778 ballots in the reporting states.

2024

68,235,905 mail-in and early in-person votes requested nationally

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You also can't just be like "Nothing comes to mind" when asked what you'll be doing differently than your historically unpopular predecessor.

Ettingermentum put it well on Hasan's stream, the Dems lost because they insisted on doing the politics they want to do while consistently telling the electorate to go fuck themselves.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Something did come to mind though: More genocide and more bipartisanship with the party she is saying is full of insane fascists

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago

They came so close to triggering a stochastic assassination of the Great Satan and backed out at the last moment.

And even that, is so unsurprisingly liberal of them.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 64 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I do hope this will be a radicalising moment for a lot of well-intentioned liberals.

They’re getting radicalized alright, just not in the direction you would hope for.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They either are going into a) full-on doomerism, this country sucks, will never elect a woman, is fully racist, etc. Which does make sense.
Or b) they're getting mad at the Dems, which is my preferred outcome so glad to see it happening all over the place.
Or c) they're getting mad at minorities, including Latinos and Arabs. Which sucks but is not unexpected either in this fascist af country.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Learning that the democrats simply don't give a shit is what set me on my current path.

[–] Voidance@hexbear.net 60 points 1 week ago

Offered nothing except 'not Trump' for the third time in a row

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 60 points 1 week ago

Yeah "vote for us or things will get worse faster" appears to have hit its breaking point as a useful strategy, assuming it ever was one.

[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 56 points 1 week ago

Trump's probably going to get 312 electoral votes when it's official, compared to 304 in 2016. He won the popular vote by a 4.45% and a republican hasn't won the popular vote by that much since 1988. People do not like Donald Trump. I bet he'll enter office with an approval rating below 50%.

[–] TC_209@hexbear.net 49 points 1 week ago

Course-correcting on a few key issues might have been enough to net the couple hundred thousand votes necessary to eke out an EC victory, but instead she told potential supporters to shut up ("I'm speaking!") while pursuing endorsements from Liz and Dick fucking Cheney. Hoe-lee shit.

[–] ThisMachinePostsHog@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago

I've realized that I was the most engaged with the Democratic party when there was a faction that platformed raising the minimum wage, implementing universal healthcare, and taking measures to make housing affordable & create a federal jobs guarantee. Those stances are non-existent now, and the party truly has nothing to offer other than not being the Republicans. So what does Kamala do? Try to remake the party's image as a friendly space for Republicans who think Trump is a little too nasty. I have no interest in voting for a Diet Republican Party, and obviously millions of other people feel the same. If people want substantive change (as much as is possible via liberal electoralism), and all you're offering is, "We're the same as the other party, but not as loud about our disdain for minorities, the poor, and the women & children of Palestine!", they're just going to stay home. Awesome strategy. joker-amerikkklap

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago

Now begins the good times for the democrat party where they can rake in donations by pointing at how bad the orange man is without having to actually govern and make people mad at them.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

15 million dropped off the face of the planet for the Dems from 2020. That's gotta be fucking historic

It's less than the percentage drop for the democrats after LBJ won the election in 1964 - on a popular vote that beat every democrat for the next ~30 years until Clinton (Clinton got 4 percent more votes than LBJ) - I think it's more that support for Biden was unusually high in 2020 compared to how democrats usually go (Roosevelt, LBJ and I think Carter maybe are exceptions)

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For added context, the LBJ to Humphrey dropoff came off the back of the Civil Rights Act, which permanently lost the democrats the South. So Biden to Harris is almost as big of a drop in support as the passing of the Civil Rights Act, except the Dems haven't even fucking done anything this time.

Also LMAO that the largest drop in support for the dems was the one time they did something good post 1945. Truly a satanic country y'all have there.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I thought the civil rights act was passed before the election where LBJ had the highest margin for a hundred or two hundred years?

I haven't read much about the post 64 period tbh

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Might actually be true, given that the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964 in july, and LBJ went on to win a massive landslide victory over Goldwater in 1964's november elections. The sheer margins that LBJ won with might also be why the republicans then went on to cater massively to the South to pry them away from the Democrats, since Southern democrats apparently make hating black people their highest political priority.

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

“Everyone” was predicting a shoe-in in Kopmala’s favor. By everyone I mean all the political modeling, the pundits etc.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago

I feel like by the eve of the election the main stream opinion was coin toss. 538 certainly was.

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

the betting markets were against her, which is unfortunately influential in all this shit.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago

last time was basically mondale and reagan, where mondale ran to the right of fucking reagan

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago