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[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 48 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

As an Australian I hope HarrisWalz wins because trumpet is a potential threat to other countries and not all of you americans are piece of shit bigots

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

As another Australian, a vote against Trump also is a vote against the Palmer united party, Dutton and other c**ts.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

I'm an American living in the Netherlands. The Dutch just elected a "conservative" goon named Geert Wilders several months ago. His rhetoric has been eerily similar to what's coming out of the UK, Germany, France, Canada, and Australia. Hell, Meloni in Italy has roots in the OG fascist party. They're getting too comfortable.

From what I can discern through my news apps (Associated Press and Reuters, these days), Palmer and Dutton are quite a vintage of proper cunts, but I argue the entire anglophone world is inundated with these authoritarian cocksuckers.

With sincerity, I hope that in your next election they're shoved into the trash compactor of history along with all the other bitch-made invertebrate right-wing lunatics that are pissing in everyone's coffee across the globe, just as we (hopefully) will do so with the Orange fucker today.

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

not all of you americans are piece of shit bigots

Australia's kindest affirmation.

I feel like there was a missed opportunity to invoke the immortal diss "shit-cunts".

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Actually, most of us are not. But that silly Electoral College we have....makes it so that Democrats have to win by huge margins just to break even on that and on things like representation in the House.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Technically it's the other way around. The size of the electoral college is determined by the size of the House plus the Senate.

Now, the House was meant to increase in size as the population increased.

Now, since the mechanism for that increase wasn't spelled out in the constitution, there were heated arguments every 10 years over the new maps, but it came to a head in 1921.

Long story short, the permanent apportionment act of 1929 set the size of the House at 435 members. We've added two states since then, and the US population has tripped. But still it's 435.

Repealing that one law would fix several problems.

This is more about me and my skewed perspective than it is about Americans... but it's easy to get the impression that amongst every group of 10 seppos there are 5 hipsters and 5 MAGA-cap-wearing idiots. Logically I know that this is false but it's hard to supplant this image.

A while back I started watching a youtube channel about 4wd recovery or something in texas. They just seem like cool normal people, I'd be stoked to meet them while "wheeling" or what have you. The thing is, I'm pretty sure they would be Trump voters just because of where they are.

Would it be more accurate to suppose that maybe 2 thirds of people every where are just kind of normal people who aren't as obsessed with politics as I am, but they do tend to line up behind whatever party their friends, family, and forebears have?

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

i am various types of shit pieces

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 24 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Every poll is a lie.

Vote.

[–] lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Seriously. They all seem to say fucking different things. Useless bunch of shit.

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago

Tbh, a Trump presidency just presents too much fuckery. I don't even really like Kamala, but I'm more comfortable with what the US looks like after a term with her than with what Trump put forth.

This is a vote in avoiding a very obvious detriment to our country.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

FYI, if you see one outlier poll, ignore it. It doesn’t mean anything.

Trust the aggregate and realize there is a margin of error. If you vote, you will be the margin of error.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

All the vote predictions are inching to a 50 50 split. And pollsters are using AI to simulate real people and using that in their models.

I'm curious if the split will actually be this close, but everything screams that the models are not right.

And then the moment you see some smaller pollsters who actually did the legwork, you see deviation from the 50 50 split.

But still... The call to vote is excellent, cause last time around some states where decided by less than 15K votes.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I've yet to get a clear answer on how they correct for the fact that no one answers the phone or wastes time talking to pollsters for free. I keep reading that " they take it into account" but not the methods used.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Its worth searching it up, theres many recent stories detailing the methods.

They use a representative sample by reaching out to random voters or posting ads online in social spaces. Once they have enough people to make representative groups to match the population of the state or nation, maybe a few thousand people, they then ask them questions.

They tend to use the same people repeatedly, as they are more reliable in answering, and some of them are regularly paid small amounts for their time.

The polls are essentially tracking a group of people who thought it was worth their time to answer polls, which I am not a part of, and noone I know is a part of.

Edit to add: one new thing this election cycle is that a new weight has been added to account for party affiliation, which wasnt used before.

https://goodauthority.org/news/pollsters-are-weighting-surveys-differently-in-2024/

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed.

Ultimately, polls are simply unable to account for the demographic of "doesn't participate in advance polling", and Anthony they attempt to do to account for that glaring weakness is guesswork.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Probably also looking at previous elections to compensate.

But the simple fact is that the repubs lost way more of their voterbase to covid than the Dems did. So if you use proportional models, there is a good chance they are off by double the excess deaths in the republican party... And that is a lot.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 144 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Possibly what you mean is don't use this news as an excuse for lazy complacency.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's what they said.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I sincerely hope to God that’s true, America deserves better than the oligarchy trash taking over it. The real fight begins after this election, the Supreme Court needs an overhaul and the electoral college needs to go

[–] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

TBH, I feel like there's an oligarchy controlling both parties. I voted for Harris, but I think I just voted for the less bat-shit crazy side. The billionaires are still going to get richer, corporations will continue to consolidate, middle-class will keep dwindling, and common people will keep getting poorer and have less say.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Dems win in areas with greater populations, which is why they have to listen to the voters. You’re right though, but tbh it’s a balancing act. I am the type to believe in “healthy” corporations, so there’s that. Uncontrolled and unregulated entities will always seek to centralize power and resources, doesn’t matter what type they are

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I was pretty bummed to hear mark Cuban wants Lina Khan fired. Cubans been a huge spokesperson for Kamala and insists they talk often.

Edit: here's an article recently about it where he tries to be the "I'm just saying" guy.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/28/us-news/mark-cuban-backtracks-after-urging-kamala-harris-to-fire-big-tech-trust-buster-lina-khan-if-she-wins-white-house/

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean Cuban has some redeeming qualities but he is still a gold hording billionaire. Linda Khan is a threat to his and all his billionaire buddies' status to being a billionaire, so it's not really too surprising he wants her gone.

And this is what frustrates me about billionaires, this pathological fear that they have about losing anything, especially money. These people are addicts to money and power. And when someone or some institution gets in the way of them getting their next money fix they will do whatever they can to tear them down. And there are many many people in this world that enable this addiction they have, they praise it and encourage them to do more. People like Khan are seen as 'narcs' out to ruin their fun. Fuck that.

I would love to see a nationwide intervention and help these poor souls break this dangerous and deadly addiction they have.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

I had really hoped that he would be one of the ones who could rationalize living the rest of his life as a simple millionaire or something.

You are right about the knee-jerk reaction to avoiding losing even a bit of wealth.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 131 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Celebrate the poll then vote 💙

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let it motivate you to go vote. You are not alone, even if you live in a deeply red area.

Every person who votes helps tell the story that the majority of this country rejects a crazy person leading our country.

[–] Kroxx@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Living in a red state this is how I thought of it, even if my vote is wasted at least maybe the world can see a majority (even if it's slight) of Americans voted against trump numerically even if he wins.

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 173 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Maybe he should do another speech where he talks about shooting people, throwing people in jail and about how much a pile of shit this country is. That seems to be working well for him, gaining him some votes. Maybe he should dig deeper into the racism and xenophobia, it’s what got him his highest numbers in the poles, right?

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 92 points 1 day ago (4 children)

pretty sure at this point he's not counting on votes to get him in the white house, but violence

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

According to conservative relatives there was no coup, only bad players.

I’m so sick of living in a malignant narcissist’s alternative reality. Can we go back to a time where half of us don’t play along with and encourage the delusions of mental illness? Pretty please?

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Latest Selzer poll, regarded by pollsters as the gold standard, shows Harris +3% over Trump. An earlier assessment gave a scale of what various Trump leads over Harris might mean - if he led her by 11% it would predict a decisive victory for him, with lesser leads meaning not quite as strong a victory, down to a Trump lead of only 3% predicting a strong showing for Harris. Harris leading Trump is literally off that scale and predicts a Harris landslide.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you talking about nationally, the recent Iowa poll, or something else? Because Trump has never won the national popular vote but still made his way into office

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like the Iowa poll, as in of Harris had a real lead on Iowa of all places, there's no chance for him in swing states.

However there's just no way, in anyone's fever dream, that Iowa would go for Harris, so we have to assume there's some freak anomaly rather than anytime to count on or predict how things are going.

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[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

He is scared and coming across like a bitter asshole. The mic deep throating would have been arguably "funny" but the whole mood was sour because all he was really doing was bitching and whining about them not setting up his mic properly. Surely even Trump voters must wonder how he could manage an actual problem if he turns into an absolute manbaby at the most minor of hiccups

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 96 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Surely even Trump voters must wonder

I'm gonna stop you right there.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Mic deep throating is funny on late night comedy TV.

Simulating oral sex live in front of children is not.

[–] nepenthes@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That was just bizzare.

Can you think of the leader of any other country where that would slide? I mean, not even Boris would have been that crass. Even keeping it within the States, is there a past president who would have?

It really made me think of elderly flashers, who act that way because they have degenerative neurological disorders associated with age.

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 19 hours ago

Both Hilary Clinton and Elon Musk will be so mad

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In case anyone is overconfident and thinks them or their family/friends don't need to vote:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Legalize Marijuana, vote for Harris!

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