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[–] wick@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

But don't you know about the azov battalion? This is relevant, please believe me /s

[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Tankies gonna tankie

[–] mr_satan@monyet.cc 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Speaking of Ukraine, did you know that currently there are North Korean solders contributing to the invasion. Not only 3 day special military operation is taking 3 years, but also russia, by itself, is unable to complete it.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

I believe it was like 15,000 troops

I wonder if they will use the North Korean strategy for saving resources (not feeding its people)

Also Ukraine has F-16s from the Netherlands (Russia shot down a NL plane killing hundreds of civilians)

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 days ago (19 children)

I ask this again? Why is every single major instance still federated with them?

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Literally what the fuck. We have GEOTAGGED IMAGES OF CONFIRMED ACTIVE RUSSIAN SOLDIERS INVADING UKRAINE IN 2014, and it's called misinfo.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/opposite-of-opsec-russian-soldier-posts-selfies-from-inside-ukraine/

[–] pinkystew@reddthat.com 12 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm brand new to Lemmy.

I've seen multiple comments suggesting that .ml be defederated. It was the first thing I saw when I got here. Sounds like there's a bad apple and nothing is being done about it

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

It's the original apple, so it's historical reasons.

I think it'll happen though, somebody just needs to bite the bullet and be the first brave one.

[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Its been kind of an ongoing thing, best to just kind of tune out *ml

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I have zero intention of blocking any .ml but, hilariously, I see they’ve deleted one of my comments. I “think” it was because I had the absolute audacity to suggest that there might be one or two bad apples in Hamas. I’ll still pop by their instances though… I’m secure enough to read things I don’t agree with without having a meltdown and trying to erase it from existence. Having said that I do realise why a lot of people would prefer to sidestep the ml area of the fediverse.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the main reason is because the people who run lemmy.ml are actually the people whi created lemmy.

Also welcome.

!newcommunities@lemmy.world and !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca are useful for new users.

Also if you’re looking for an instance that has ML defederatrd but is still well federated with everything else I recommend lemmy.cafe

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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 89 points 2 days ago (4 children)

How the heck is that US propaganda? It's historical fact

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For far right people and tankies facts are propaganda. It's 1900s all over again.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Sometimes facts hurt our feelings and that makes them bad and wrong!

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Um, aktually, the Ukronazis started the war in 1991 when they ILLEGALLY declared 'independence' from the glorious USSR with a paltry 93% in approval of the plebiscite.

Alternatives or addendums:

  • Crimea was actually invaded by polite green men with no Russian affiliation and the resulting election was completely free and fair
  • Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!
  • NATO provocation mind-controlled Putin into invading
  • Everything started in 2022 and Russian troops were AGGRESSIVELY ATTACKED when all they did was kill a few border guards and try to drive an entire army to Kyiv!
[–] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Well played, good sir.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please imagine this meme that I am too lazy to create:

NATO: exists

Is this provocation?

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Just a simple 3 day invasion. Nothing to see here.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

I've heard that it was just a propaganda quote from a western general and a ten year attrition war is going as planned

[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

on Nov. 19 we are on the 1000th day of the 3 day invasion

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Russia is so glorious and advanced that even their three-day invasions last over 300× longer!

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

the morons brought their dress uniforms to an invasion believing they'd be needed for the PARADES.

goddamn I can't tell who's dumber, putin thinking this shit would work, or the idiots that tried it.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

What side of distorted reality are they going for here? It's become harder to tell. You'd think anti-Russian, right? Except Republicans are weirdly pro Putin because their orange clown has a hardon for dicktators.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Basically modern-day Russia still uses Stalinist newspeak, and tankies take it in good faith. In Stalinist newspeak, "imperialism" meant "opposition of the Soviet empire".

Another thing is, tankies also think the USA is the only obstacle in a global communist revolution, and that social autocracies like Russia and China are not going hinder any attempt at it. China is now also exploiting the global south, and I cannot convince tankies that the Hungaran Fudan university isn't being gifted for free by the Chinese, but is on a loan that Hungarian taxpayers have to pay back.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

Pro-Russian. .ml is big on bootlicking Putin against 'Western Imperialism' and opposing the 'Ukronazis'.

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