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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 89 points 2 days ago (4 children)

How the heck is that US propaganda? It's historical fact

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For far right people and tankies facts are propaganda. It's 1900s all over again.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Sometimes facts hurt our feelings and that makes them bad and wrong!

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Um, aktually, the Ukronazis started the war in 1991 when they ILLEGALLY declared 'independence' from the glorious USSR with a paltry 93% in approval of the plebiscite.

Alternatives or addendums:

  • Crimea was actually invaded by polite green men with no Russian affiliation and the resulting election was completely free and fair
  • Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!
  • NATO provocation mind-controlled Putin into invading
  • Everything started in 2022 and Russian troops were AGGRESSIVELY ATTACKED when all they did was kill a few border guards and try to drive an entire army to Kyiv!
[–] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Well played, good sir.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 49 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please imagine this meme that I am too lazy to create:

NATO: exists

Is this provocation?

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tankies = Ruscists = Fascists

Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!

Good old Sudetendeutsche excuse. 卐

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe 4X games tend to label that option "Fabricate a claim"

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

It doesn't even matter in this day and age. Claims have no meaning anymore since borders are internationally recognized as they are and only legitimately changed through diplomacy, not through acts of war. In this case, Russia very much, on multiple occasions, acknowledged the borders (including Crimea) and Ukraine's sovereignty - including their potential wish to join NATO (I don't remember if it was Lavrov who said it, it was some old interview).

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago

This clears things up. Thank you.