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I’m able to vote PSL where I live, so obviously I’m voting for them, but other than that I’m thinking of leaving the ballot mostly blank except for some amendments I like. There’s like one Berniecrat-sounding guy running for state legislature I might vote for, but it seems like every damn local politician is some flavor of conservative around here. What do you think?

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[–] GayTuckerCarlson@hexbear.net 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Either do it or don't fucking hell it's a piece of paper why do you have to do all this moralizing lib shit just make a decision

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago
[–] The_sleepy_woke_dialectic@hexbear.net 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If you get to vote on school board check if there are any moms for liberty types.

But yeah I don't know why you wouldn't. It takes minutes and your vote is consequential locally.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Remember to vote against the judges

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago

a bunch in my area are running unopposed

i really wish i could vote against them but unfortunately that means i have to be able to vote for someone lese

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago

Kill the lib in your brain that spends any energy thinking about this shit. Don't let libs colonize your brain into entertaining counterrevolutionary activities.

I show up for 10 minutes, maybe do a web search or two, check some boxes and never fucking think about that shit again. That is the upper ceiling for how much thought you should be giving to electoralism.

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I voted PSL for president and left my Senate and House races blank because neither of them said shit about Palestine the whole election other than condeming Iran's retaliation. I did vote straight Dem on my my state and local races because local Republicans are fucking nuts where I am. I get to vote on judges and I would definitely rather be in front of a democratic judge 90% of the time.

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You time would be better spent applying for a class action lawsuit. I got like $70 from Juul.

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

hell yeah I applied for like 50 of them during covid that I found online and got a bunch of free money.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For me there was one candidate who challenged our shitty anti-homeless city councilman who was pretty dope and progressive. She actually is a long time homeless advocate and lawyer and also did pro bono work for arrested pro-palenstine protestors. And she is openly bi and poly

Also state provisions can matter, even if they arent perfect or are marginally good. In CA there is a proposition to legalize gay marriage in the state constitution (in case Oberfell gets overturned) as well as rent control and abolishing unpaid prisoner labor.

There might be smaller scale elections like school board that have some wacky anti trans or anti vax single issue candidate that is worth defeating.

But also I advocate for people to just not vote if they dont want to. Im just a nerd for filling in bubbles and knowing that i made a number go up by 1

[–] dustbunnies@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Im just a nerd for filling in bubbles

!!! this is a type of nerd?!? MY PEOPLE

haven't had to take a standardized test in a very long time, and I miss the bubbles so much. I love trying to make them a perfectly uniform, perfectly shiny, perfectly circular little dot of graphite.

I bet I could probably find some of the little scantron answer pages online just to fill in for fun 🤔

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

Bro when i took my first standardized test in like 2nd grade the first thing i told my parents is how much fun it was to fill in the bubbles

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

Omg me too! Ngl the part that I felt the best about when filling out my ballot was not the votes themselves but filling in those little ovals and making them perfect.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

Whatever. If you think it's worth your time to research them all and pick go for it. If not, don't. The dsa or psl might have a voting guide for your area.

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

yay. as a former anarchist who never voted, I can tell you that not voting definitely didn't work.

[–] varmint@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

As a former liberal, voting wasn't working much for me either

[–] Azarova@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

i just spend at most 10 minutes googling the names to figure out which candidates are the least demonic. its not worth any more investment than that tbh

[–] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If you can prevent a psycho who wants to kill trans kids from getting on your local school board or something, by all means. But ultimately, touching grass and organizing is a better use of your time than normalizing about your ballot

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

The ones where there was a better option, I picked it. The rest I wrote something in

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If everyone on the ballot supports genocide or is silent about genocide, then there's nobody to vote for and the decision is made for you.

If anyone on the ballot denounces the genocide in Palestine and their record backs the denunciation up, then you should vote for them.

None of my local Dems said anything against the genocide so I didn't vote for Dems down-ballot either.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

surely yay - i'm probably more lib on voting than half the site (I don't outright refuse because aus-delenda-est's system has the veneer of being more representative and i'm not directly blocked from voting for socialists), but i mean, if you're there why wouldn't you?

I feel like America's system is inherently designed to make local more powerful in the day-to-day then federal, so you may as well either find a leftist somewhere on the downballot stuff or at least fuck over some ghouls/spill the positions of existing judges or whatever.

just don't hold any belief that you're immediately making a difference. every single bit of that ballot from top to bottom is trimming around the edges and we have to do the work elsewhere, but if you actually lined up for just the top choice, you're already a lib anyway and you may as well do the rest for a laugh

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You see this shit about Victorian Socialist favourite Independent?

whoops *content warning, known SA abuser assaulted a sex wroker who was protesting him

[–] miz@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

your username holds the answer

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago

Yes vote local. Especially against judges.

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I didn't vote down ballot this year. I voted in the primaries for the candidates that seemed to have good policy and all lost. So most, if not all, of my entire ballot was full of unopposed Democrats with shitty views and policies. TBF I also didn't research if any 3rd parties were running in those elections, but I doubt it. Also just feels like its harder now since they (the Green or PSL) didn't have ballot access locally, even though I've seen them in the past.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

do some googling for the races you don't have a horse in for the most progressive candidate and write them in if they're not on your ballot.

if you have access to ai; use that instead if you have a lot of spare credits and use google confirm it; ai messes up a lot.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

ChatGPT etc isn't updated to the current year and just isn't great for this purpose anyway. If you really want to use AI, Google already forces that upon us now anyway when we do a search.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

you're right; it's not built for it and usually does a shitty job if you try; but i find it useful as a starting off point when google's enshitification is too much (and i would expect it considering that the election is a few days away).

i use the fact's it gives me like names, policy titles, etc. that i can then use with a search engine.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

There's a couple democrats that I actually respect on a local level. But yeah, tuning out the do-nothing-dems that will likely just take credit for what local socialists do.

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago

I would say vote 3rd party and on legislation, that's what I do.