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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 70 points 6 days ago (1 children)
  1. China had a 460million population and 33 year lifespan when the revolution began. It's current modern day living standards, population size and lifespan is a direct result of Mao.

  2. Harvard Study directly contradicts everything this user just said about Chinese not being able to think critically, in fact Harvard says the reason 95% of Chinese support the government is because they brought real material improvements consistently that they have all lived through.

  3. Claiming they can't innovate is just racism. They are leading the world in research papers.

[–] Mokey2@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago

Nono us university are filled with chinese scientist because they cheated to get in there or they were outliers who were so desperate to escape the US

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 64 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

twisted into a shameful echo of what we all know they could be

They're literally the next emergent global superpower but okay

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But they could be cheap exploitable labor for mee, and communism took that from them rage-cry

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago

Summed it up nicely. Thats why he mentions the population. A lot of people not being exploited by em

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 41 points 6 days ago

plot twist it's actually a Maoist who thinks that the chinese kkkommunist party led by Deng ruined china

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 25 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Many would argue that they already are a superpower

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

Have you considered that they'll be even more of a superpower when xi-plz

[–] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 57 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You don’t have to imagine. Without Mao, China would be like India.

They both had been through a century or more of oppression and/or colonization resulting in the complete destruction of their economy, literacy, health etc. In 1947 and 1949, they were in very similar conditions.

And look at the difference between the two since then.

So, you don’t have to imagine. The world would be worse off. Now, if you had a Red India…

[–] Angry_Stoat@hexbear.net 31 points 5 days ago

In 1947 and 1949, they were in very similar conditions.

Not true. India was in a much better state well into the 70s, inheriting a lot of the British built infrastructures, and was able to trade with both the East and the West. Whereas China was completely war torn, and for a time, isolated.

Even though the PRC was proclaimed in 1949, the CPC at the time only controlled half the nation. Fighting with KMT and its aligned warlords on the mainland continued until the mid 50s, with smaller pockets holding out for several more years after. And not long after that, the Sino-Soviet split happened, compounded with the already placed US led sanctions, China was basically cut off from the rest of the world for nearly two decades. The fact the CPC was able to turn their fortune around and become an emerging super power is an amazing feat.

India more or less squandered its head start with its incompetent government, and it has only gotten worse post 90s with it fully embracing neoliberalism and religious fanaticism.

A Red India, would probably have seen the bigger picture and accepted Zhou Enlai’s border agreement, preventing future conflicts, and China would have been able to skirt the economic and technological sanctions via India, saving some hardships of the 60s and 70s.

Both nations would be more prosperous today, perhaps even tipping the scale a bit, preventing the Soviet collapse.

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 33 points 6 days ago

Pan Asian Combine would be unstoppable

[–] Midnight_Pearl@hexbear.net 50 points 6 days ago (1 children)

leave it to a ledditor to write the most hideously racist thing i've read all month, and leave it to leddit to give him 1.7 thousand upvotes

these scumfucks can't be re-educated

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

scumfucks

I have a new word

[–] Ath3ro@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago

Just wait until you listen to “Scumfuck Flowerboy” by tyler the creator

[–] Mokey2@hexbear.net 44 points 5 days ago

If it werent Mao China would be 7 different countries all below poverty levels

[–] regul@hexbear.net 52 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Dawg I do not know how you look at China in 2024 and don't think that they're literally kicking everyone's ass when it comes to innovation.

You're going to want a different yardstick if you're trying to shit on China.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 35 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The Chinese could never invent bored apes

[–] ryepunk@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Where is the bacon flavoured Doritos ranch dressing of china? How about some ranch infused kung Pao sauce? Truly an uncultured society where you don't have thousands of choices for which sauce goes on the chicken nuggies. If I cannot experience choice paralysis at the grocery over items that have no real discernible difference than what is the point of living?

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago

China has even more sauce choices. They have a whole other kind of spicy that most amerikkkrakkkers aren't even aware of.

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago

I remember when we kept getting treated to articles about China raiding all those mining operations and arresting everyone involved. Truly a better society.

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 37 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yankees think China hasn't innovated because they haven't invented financial derivatives based on Pepsicola x Sourpatch Kidz futures

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 21 points 6 days ago

Bruh in a lot of research or patent sites there is a looooooooot of chinese patents. I mean a lot. I don't know what he talking about

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 43 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Redditors are incredibly delusional. China has its flaws but being backwards is not one of them.

The whole “stealing tech” used to be said about the Japanese too. I remember a Japanese woman talking about how she and her father went to some kind of tech expo in the early 70’s and some guy looked at them and said, “why should I show you anything? You people are just going to steal it anyway.”

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 25 points 5 days ago

Yeah, even the Back to the Future trilogy (with its racism idealizing the 50s) pointed this discrepancy out

[–] facow@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also "stealing" tech is just kind of how countries develop. It was explicit US policy to steal European patents during industrialization. There's no reason there should be a global monopoly on some idea

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago

Apparently it was one of the big Freedoms™ people would point to in the 19th century.

"What makes America so free? Why, you can manufacture what you like, print and sell anything! Copyright? Patent? Sheer humbugery!"

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 45 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

MikeLaoShi

fucking westerners that go to china and get a nice ass high paid teaching job despite having no qualifications besides being a cracker and then have the nerve to whine about how not everything in china is the same as back home and le seeseepee is le evil authoritarian, despite having just witnessed the effects of the fastest increase in living standards and economic growth on earth

shut up and enjoy the privilege of being paid 25K/month for waving flashcards at kids and playing songs off a usb stick, or go home to kkkrakkkerstan

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

yeah deffo posted from a nice apartment in downtown Shanghai or sthing lol what a joke

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago

Dude for sure only interacts with other sexpats, hates "the locals", but loves being a pest to Chinese women, and then gets mad when random women on the street don't treat him like a god like the ones at the designated sexpat bars.

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 45 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Oh no what a fucking tragedy for mankind that the people of China live in a place where they actually have a positive outlook on the future.

Meanwhile I literally cannot even imagine the sensation of societal optimism.

[–] newmou@hexbear.net 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Instead the Chinese are leading the world in green technology, public infrastructure, scientific research, space exploration, and more. Smdh what could have been

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago

But at what cost?

[–] 2812481591@hexbear.net 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

a paleolithic incel didn't get laid 100,000 years ago. Humanity lost over a quadringentillion free thinking souls.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago

The sad part is that there are likely many incels today that think this unironically

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

we have parrots and sheep whose only advancements come through stealing others' work

Translation: "WAAHHHH THE PEOPLE AT WORK LAUGH AT ME FOR BEING A STUPID ILLITERATE AMERICAN!!!!"

[–] Mokey2@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

Youre telling me that the people who are world champions at mathematics, have insanely fierce competitive schools and have an insane number of scientists are somehow only capable of theft? Like something doesnt add up. China has its issues but its so racist to assume everything that comes out of China is theft

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 34 points 6 days ago

sinophobia and projection from an usaian, a member of the most propagandised state in the history of our world

[–] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

haha what a loser

keep coping

[–] Eldritch@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago

Everything he says about chinese people oddly applies to western crackers. Its always pure projection.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 30 points 6 days ago

What a piece of shit. This kind of post sums up how all Westerners view the New China. Smug, condescending and racist.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago

What a coincidence this is how i feel about western europe and colonialism

[–] Jenniferrr@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago
[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago

I don't know what America's attitude toward intellectual property law was during its phase of industrial development and I see no reason to find out

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 23 points 6 days ago

Its sounds like a description of the US

[–] bazingabrain@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago

theres a quick cure for the affliction the person who wrote this suffers from. A full metal jacket bullet to the skull.

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"Its a shame that these Orientals cant be Real people like us hwites"

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago

If it wasn't for Mao, the Chinese would've pioneered interstellar travel through the invention of the first starship capable of FTL travel where they would've found the fountain of youth in some distant galaxy, curing cancer in the process. Feel stupid yet tankie?