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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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Some of the many species Jeffrey Combs has evolved into:

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

For someone who gives this much of a shit about gender roles, you'd think they'd learn the correct forms of the word for an intended spouse.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 0 points 5 days ago

Most people don't give a shit about the gendered spelling differences in loan words

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 days ago

He's just copy/pasting what the listener wrote and doesn't realize the connotation?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

My wife took my name, but I would not give the slightest shit if she didn't, which I made clear to her at the time.

We briefly discussed having a double-barrel surname, but writing that out would be a mild inconvenience that neither of us want.

And maybe this is a dumb question, but what happens when forename surnameA-surnameB marries or has children with forename surnameX-surnameY?

What is the resulting name? forename surnameA-surnameB-surnameX-surnameY? Do they pick one of each, e.g. A-X?

[–] Steak@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah hyphenating is not progressive at all. And I should know, I have a goatee.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

My maiden name was awful to have. Other people liked it because it looked cool, but it was a hassle for everything even in the US, where at least part of it was well known. I then moved to Germany, where it was just totally foreign.

My married name is under three syllables (vs more than eight), easy to spell, and sounds as German as possible. My husband would have loved to take my last name, but we couldn’t do it the way we wanted to (German naming laws 🙃). I would really have liked to at least have been able to keep my maiden name as a middle name, but alas.

I still feel very weird (about a year out) about it, but there are way more good feelings than bad.

However, it’s really annoying that people now assume I’m German. I put in a shit load of work to learn German well as an adult, and my strongest skill is in pronunciation. That combined with my name means people think I’m just a native German who’s bad at grammar, and they don’t correct me anymore.

I always wanted to blend in as a native, I just didn’t think about the middle stretch where I just seem a bit dumb to others, both because of the language and cultural things that people now expect me to know (I thought it was called handkäse because you can eat the little rounds straight from the hand, no need for bread, until last year).

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have a German surname, but my family changed the pronunciation to sound lest German during WWII so now Germans pronounce it "wrong" and no one else can pronounce it at all.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I read most of my news, so it took about a month to realize the VP candidates last name was pronounced “Walls,” so you’re among company.

I’m from Connecticut, which has a town called Berlin, pronounced BURR-lun (/‘bərlən/). That , like the pronunciation of many German-origin names, was changed during WWII, but it’s basically a shibboleth for locals now, like Houston Street.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm in Indiana and half of our place names are pronounced incorrectly.

Ver-sayles (Versailles)
Rooshaville (Russiaville)
Pee-ru (Peru) Kay-roh (Cairo)

And, of course, we're the home of the University of Note'r Daym.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Saint Louis would like some words:

Bellefontaine (BELL-fountain)

Cabanne (CAB-a-knee)

Chouteau (SHOW-toe)

Carondelet (kron-duh-let)

Cote Brilliante (coat BRILL-yunt)

DeTonty (duh-TON-tee)

Dougherty Ferry (DOOR-uh-tee ferry)

DeBaliviere (duh-BALL-uh-ver)

Goethe (GO-thee)

Gravois (GRAV-oy)

Gratiot (GRASH-it)

Hodiamont (HOAD-uh-mont)

Juniata (june-ee-AH-tuh)

Kossuth (KOSS-ooth)

Laclede (lah-CLEED)

Spoede (SPAY-dee)

Tesson Ferry (TESS-on ferry)

Zumbehl (ZUM-bull)

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like L.A., where they like to mispronounce every Spanish name and half the names are in Spanish.

Like Lows Feel-iz (Los Feliz)

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Yup, we also add French and German in the mix!

[–] quafeinum@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

German here. Took my wife’s name because she has publications and I don’t. I have no idea what you are talking about. In Germany any partner can take the others name in a marriage or even have a compound name (maiden name - new name). My father took my mother’s name, they divorced 20 years ago, now my father is going to change his name back to his old name. My sister married her girlfriend, she took her name. Idk at this point it kinda became our internal family joke thing although our last name wasn’t that horrible

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I already had a compound name, and we both have middle names, which are the relevant problems to combining our names the way we wanted.

In Germany, you can’t have a twice hyphenated name (not that I wanted one), nor can you use that hyphenated name as an additional middle name, if you already have one.

[–] quafeinum@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Ah ok thanks for explaining. That makes sense that although they redid the law that there’s still idiotic shit I it that doesn’t work in real life.

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What a narrow view. In other many places things are different and they function you know. In Brazil kids get the mother's surname.

[–] Chouxfleur@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Wait until he finds out about Icelandic naming conventions!

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

Interesting how it goes?

[–] expr@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago

Do you think Matt brain would blue screen if I told him I took my wife's last name?

Everyone has funny or unique stories about last names... Some people change their names for love, others keep them for work, and some even mix them up for fun. It’s like having many characters in one story, just like Jeffrey Combs does in acting—each name choice has its special vibe

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I just see it as a hassle. Like why even bother? She would have to explain why she wants to take my name and I would try talking her out of it "What if we get a divorce in 7 years or so? Do you just have to change it back then?" I'm sure that would go over well

Patriarchal traditions aside, part of the idea is that you're aiming for a permanent relationship, or you shouldn't do it

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

How normal is a maiden name? I thought mostly Christians did it. In a lot of cultures surname is just a father's name, so maiden concept never made sense to me.

Edit: confused maiden name with husband name.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't know what you think a maiden name is, but it is her father's surname.

It's a 'maiden name' because you're supposed to keep it until you're married, at which point you're no longer a maiden and you take your husband's name.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sorry English is not my first language. I meant to ask, how common it is to change surname to husband one.

I think the wife should get to keep her surname because like I said in most cultures surname is a father/family name so once married, your father or family you were born in doesn't change.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I would like some evidence that is true about "most cultures."

Wikipedia sure doesn't suggest that's true. If anything, it varies a lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maiden_and_married_names

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Reread my comment."most" was used while referring to surname being a father/family name. Don't need Wikipedia to know that.

And my comment was doing the opposite of what you are alleging. I'm asking how common are husband names(that wives get). It is very clearly a question and not an imposition.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

I see, this is just how you think the world should work. I guess you'll have to learn to live with the disappointment that it doesn't.

[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago

Well it'll be easier for scammers since she didn't change her last name

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website -1 points 5 days ago

The government wants your money and to waste time.

[–] ShaunaTheDead@fedia.io 160 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Women, don't marry men who won't take your name. That's a wall of separation he wants to keep between you. It won't be the only one.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I took my wife's name when we got married. I hate my family and intended to change my last name anyway. Her family is awesome. It was an easy choice.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago

And don't marry a man who insists you take his. That's a wall of control he's building around you and he won't stop until he's separated you from everyone and everything you love. Marry the man who accepts it's your choice to decide, along with every other decision about yourself.

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[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 89 points 1 week ago (7 children)

There are lots of reasons for women to keep their maiden name. In the case of my wife, she had two good ones:

  1. She didn't want to become disassociated from her scientific publications.

  2. She didn't want to complicate or redo any immigration paperwork.

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's heart warming to see Jeffrey Combs is an incredible actor with good taste in the company he keeps. It's exciting seeing him vocally shouting down the fascists.

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (12 children)

My fiance and I are considering creating a brand new last name that we both take.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

You can share mine. Personally I don't like it, but maybe you will.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 33 points 1 week ago

I think it’s safe to say that Walsh knows a lot about women maintaining “walls of separation”. Maybe even restraining orders.

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