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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Democrats keep fucking it all up. You don't go after republicans. You go after your own god damn base for the first time in modern history. The left isn't voting because nobody represents them.

Represent them, they'll vote, and then you'll win, because those are your people sitting elections out constantly.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Arnold just endorsed her FFS. Just give it up, you were wrong. Trump's a con man and a loser. Don't be a loser.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Two months of courting Republicans did basically nothing for Harris's polling. That they think Mike Pence or Liz Cheney are influential Republicans kind of makes their hypothesis that there are secret defectors that don't get counted in polls extra suspect.

https://mstdn.social/@maxkennerly/113346172267266673

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Harris has lost 1.2% of the vote since Oct 1, so whatever she is doing isnt working.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/?ex_cid=abcpromo

[–] scarabine@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's a terrible strategy for a number of reasons. The big one isn't even that they can't be courted - they CAN. It's just that the thing that courts them isn't "we can be really Republican, too!" - it's actually progressive policy.

It turns out that being stridently pro-worker, pro-healthcare, pro-education, pro-small business, and pro-social safety are all incredibly popular stances with broad support. Time and time again, openly supporting these things draws Republican support. The noise that emerges online and in the outrage merchant pundit class is just that - noise, made up to try and steer the conversation.

Which is the big risk to doing any of this pro-worker stuff - it's mostly about Fox News or the talk show host nutjobs branding it as evil and starting a propaganda war about it, and the rest of the media world just following along like insipid stenographers.

It's a branding war, basically, the Overton window doesn't need to shift further right at all.

[–] Famko@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

There was a video by "More Perfect Union" where they went around a Trump rally asking what they wanted from a president. Surprisingly, they wanted more taxes for the rich and expanded worker's rights.

So yeah, I bet that appealing to conservative talking points doesn't work at all. No wonder that Tim Walz is pretty popular in his state on both sides, considering that he is pretty pro union and progressive.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's fun watching the people who screamed that they weren't going to vote for any Dem scream louder when the Dems try to pick up votes from people who were going to vote for Trump.

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