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I'll start off with one, Being upset about a breakup that happened hundreds of years ago.

Edit 1:

  • Heath death of the universe, Death of the sun, etc, does not count. I feel like focusing on this is an overused point.

Edit 2:

  • Loneliness does not count. I feel like we all know immortality means you'll miss people and lose them.
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[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

If it's just you being immortal, loss of all family, and friends, and loss of new friends, rinse repeat forever. Eventualdieyoull watch society collapse and regrow (possibly), and the planet will die. Immortality is forever after all. Then you're left alone on a deserted dead planet. Electronics you have will eventually break and fade away to time. The sun will grow and die off, and it'll burn because you're immortal but still stuck on a planet that'll get enveloped, eventually. Living forever would be terrible unless it was forever until you died of something physical, just not age and illness.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

All the people trying to dissect you for science.

[–] AbeilleVegane@beehaw.org 1 points 6 days ago

If everyone gets to be immortal, imagine never being able to get rid of dictators. Putin's 600th won election.

People in the future wouldn't be allowed to have children, Earth will be filled to the brim with very old people and very few new ideas.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

As OP mentioned, a lot of replies focus on loss, that friends will inevitably die and objects will break........ we already face that reality with regular life! That's hardly a downside of immortality itself.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 85 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Being asked your birthdate in order to view a game on Steam, and the year dropdown not going back far enough.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

Worse still, no manual entry of the birth date, so it takes ages to scroll down and select the year.

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Date pickers that assume you have a 5 digit birth year.

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[–] Octospider@lemm.ee 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Depends on the type of immorality. Do you continue to age? If no, what age do you stop? Eventually the universe will die. So what happens to you then?

It might be fun for a while. Maybe even a long while. But that fun will be gone in an instant compared to the trillions and trillions of years you will float in a dark dying universe of nothing.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

All the comments assume everybody else isn't also immortal. I forget the title and author but there's an old sci fi story (or novel?) about a future where everybody lives for centuries, and they've found that the brain only retains a certain amount of experience. They have long careers, get tired of doing whatever, re-educate and do something else, or even have multiple families they eventually forget about. A couple of the characters are surprised to find out they used to be married like a century earlier. To me that seems vaguely like reincarnation, and I kind of don't hate the idea. I really don't see any downside to that scenario, or even just going on forever.

People are focused on having regrets and negatives that last forever. But buck up li'l camper, you can learn to move on from stuff. And I say this as a dad whose daughter had cancer at age 10 (she survived). It was hell and I wouldn't want to live through that whole period again, but I don't consider it a reason not to want to live forever. The trick is to learn how to cope with these things and not let them outweigh the good experiences you have.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

A scifi short story I read was set in a somewhat idyllic future.

Robots did everything. Everyone was given housing, food etc. Health was covered and people lived virtually forever. Nobody worked, and you could travel and do anything you wanted.

The most prized thing, that everyone was desperate for, was having an original thought.

Reminds me another story about an idyllic world where almost nobody worked and everything was provided. At one point a crew showed up to repair a house, and everybody gathered around to watch, marveling at their work clothes and tools. One guy yearned to use tools so he started making little craft items at home, and trading them to people for worthless little tiddly wink tokens they used for friendly bets on sports. Then his neighbors started doing the same thing and they got a little economy going, using the tokens as currency, until the government got wind of it and squashed the whole thing because commerce was illegal.

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[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 44 points 1 week ago (6 children)

immortality doesn't guarantee perpetual health, you're alive, but so broken and sick you wish you could die, but you can't

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 6 days ago

This was the premise of the Greek myth of Tithonus

In short, Eos fell in love with Tithonus, a mortal prince, and begged Zeus to grant immortality to him (but forget to specify eternal youth and eternal health) so she was forced to watch him age until he shrunk into a raisin and was eaten

[–] 50MYT@aussie.zone 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah this answer.

Imagine being immortal and you get stuck somewhere.

Like in a giant land slide.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Basically all of the time you’re alive will be after the heat death of the universe, where you will be floating in space, with nothing to do, nothing to see, nothing to experience. Complete darkness, complete silence, in a complete vacuum, for eternity. Every other particle in the universe is forever out of your reach. You know that you will have nothing forever. You will never see, hear, or touch anything again, for all of time, which will never end. The trillions of years that preceded your float through the void fade into a distant memory as you outlive twice as much time, four times as much, a trillion-trillion times as much, and infinitely more.

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[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 33 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That old person feeling of no longer being with "it", and what's "it" now being strange and scary probably compounds over the centuries.

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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Life will pound you into an uncaring jaded disinterested unloveable husk of a being after too many emotional scars from losing loved ones, too much of seeing humanity make the same mistakes, and too much watching the knowledge you gained turned irrelevant.

Or, life will beat into you an uncanny ability to converse and relate to others, even if fleetingly.

Watch The Man from Earth.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've watched the Man From Earth a couple times. Can only recommend.

However it doesn't fit your description. Oldman says that his memory is basically limited. Just like any mortal's. Only the brightest, most impactful memories are retained and the rest is a blur. If you are forty plus, you barely have memories of your childhood today, unless you have recorded them as soon as you could and rehashed them frequently. Same for him. As such, he is constantly evolving with the world mentally (and physically apparently).

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The first paragraph is how I imagine he was during the first few centuries of his life, when all the scars were fresh and he had no idea how to deal with it. From the sounds of it he has been in ruling positions, and may have even enjoyed it briefly, before he adopted the humble mindset that he has now and tries to inspire humanity with small acts of compassion.

(I write "adopted" but I like to think that his actions actually reflect the hazy consciousness of humanity at the time, and so maybe he was molded into this persona over the years, as humanity grew somewhat kinder? Or he learned that the highest value one can have is not through wealth or power, but through compassion, i.e. something that all humans would eventually learn, a.k.a humanity does have value if given a chance).

I do wonder how his skills have decayed. Can he juggle? Can he do a backflip, or it's been too long and he no longer remembers how? How elastic is his brain exactly, and what precisely is there left of him in there that just isn't a hazy imprint of his circumstances over the last few centuries.

Imagine a neural net with limited nodes that has been subject to more training data than it can handle. Eventually it just learns to approximate all the data it has seen (overtrained) and isn't elastic enough to predict or react to new stimulus, and becomes set in its ways. Is this the case with John? Or does he summarize old historical data and leaves himself with enough elasticity to learn new things from the last X decades?

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Juggling might be in the same vein as bicycling, or swimming. Learn it and it's really hard to unlearn it. Or maybe like tying your necktie or shoe laces. You learn it once with more focus and then periodically if recalled you retain it.

Anecdotal, but I've learned how to flip the balisong over a couple days in my late teens at the cost of lots of cuts on my hand and fingers (more dramatic than it sounds really) without a guide. I haven't had one in three decades, but I got my hands on one a year or two back and I was able to recall the motion and technique in only a couple tries without any cuts. Even today when I think about it, I can do the flick motion and my hand and wrist instinctively yearns for the weight of the cool steel.

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[–] vis4valentine@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Knowing the answer to some of history's biggest mysteries, because you were there, but being unable to speak about them because, 1, that would expose you, 2, nobody would believe you either way because nobody expects you to be THAT old.

Also, it is already frustrating seeing kids being dismissive or denying events that you yourself have lived. Imagine being thousands of years old and seeing so much shit, but those events are rarely retold, forgotten, or straight up denied by conspiracies or future governments that won't admit their fault on it.

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

At some point, our sun will go supernova and you will end up drifting through space.
And all your life before that point will be less than a blink of an eye compared to the time that follows:
Trillions and trillions of years until the heat death of the universe.
And even that time will be less than the blink of an eye compared to the eternity afterwards, when you drift through a black void without any stars.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

Doesn't this also take into account the universe never does a snap back into itself?

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[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Given a long enough time frame, the vast majority of an immortal life would be spent buried beneath something or floating in the void of space. Think about it, you outlast planets and stars. When those go dark, but you don't die...nothing to do but float in space.

You might counter that with, "well yeah, but eventually I'd find other sentient life forms and/or people again.” And sure, maybe, but that wouldn't last as long as you...and then you're just alone floating in space again, for the vast majority of your life. The only thing to look forward to, since you will outlast everything, is the end of time itself.

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