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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 67 points 6 days ago

YouTube/Google and hiding data from the end-user, name a better duo.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Fucking YouTube is at it again, and you know what? I think Susan make a better YouTube CEO than the current retarded CEO, Luckily Revanced is a thing hopefully they patch it if it come true

[–] notous@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Screw this, mainstream websites are constantly trying to do everything they can to influence public opinion every day. First dislike button second this.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Hmm at a glance I dont see a major issue here, my concern would be that I dont click on vids with shit numbers so they are now on a more equal footing.

But it is better for people not to be so focused on numbers like removing number of likes on Instagram.

[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

I don't know what's up with the algorithm pushing these lately. If it's a video with 4 views from a channel with no subscribers I'm probably not interested in it. Sometimes they have a good thumbnail/title so I give them a chance but 9/10 times it's terrible. Also often extremely right wing for whatever reason.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But it is better for people not to be so focused on numbers like removing number of likes on Instagram.

Is my mental health really something I want Google managing?

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They are not managing so much as they are eliminating a likely issue for users and the public.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's a lot of words to describe managing.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They are not managing your mental health they are managing their brand and PR.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When Google removed the dislikes from youtube videos, one of the lies they told was it was for the users(or uploader's) mental health.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Prominent youtubers came out and specifically said that they found it a good measure for their mental health to not have the focus on dislikes. Fairly certain one of the vlogbrothers did. They may not agree with it completely but said it was a positive.

I dislike it because it was a good measure of if I should click on a video or not.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Except that the uploader can still see the downvote count. It was just removed so that corporations wouldn't be embarrassed when they put out an unpopular trailer or product.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Except thats not what the actual creators said, and they enjoy not having it displayed.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I just checked. I can see my own dislikes. They hide the number directly, but I can see how many likes I have and the ratio of likes to unlikes.

Also, the creators that I follow didn't like having the dislikes removed. Even if they did, I can make my own judgement calls. I'm sure the creators who are more dependent on sponsorships like not having their embarrassments visible. I'm sure IH doesn't mind that stuff not being visible for "his" hole video.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I dont know what or who you are talking about.

I don't mind seeing vids with small numbers (many are genuinely cool) but I avoid 500k and above (except music) because the mainstream is mostly clickbait.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

Wouldn’t the YouTube creator need to see views for ad revenue? Are they removing them for viewers or creators too?

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 269 points 1 week ago (10 children)

It’s already really difficult to engage with the content you want to see, but now they’re also taking away the only immediately noticeable metric of a successful video? Genuinely just why

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Personally I find the highest viewed videos on YT to be the absolute shittiest ones.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah, that’s kinda the problem too

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 251 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They removed the star system a long time ago. They removed the down votes again a few years back.

They want their algorithm to be the only thing that decides whether you watch a video or not.

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

To be fair, the star system was garbage. I agree with the rest though

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 151 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That'll work excellent for all those people trying to find tutorial videos for 'XYZ' when you have no verification data to determine whether it's even a legit tutorial.

[–] calabast@lemm.ee 75 points 1 week ago (11 children)

People who watch tutorial videos only get on, watch the video and then leave. How are they supposed to make tons of advertising revenue from that? No, we must sacrifice that class of video from the platform, in pursuit of the almighty dollar.

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 122 points 1 week ago (2 children)

YT Exec - /rips massive line of coke off Intern's ass/ - "Remove View Count"

YT Engineer - "But Sir, users will hate that. It will actively make the user experience worse"

YT Exec - "That's the goddamn point!"

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

This is inane but damn if it didn’t give me a good laugh :D

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 97 points 1 week ago

sounds like another job for the return youtube dislikes guy

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Seems like a sure way to lose my engagement. I don't understand what Google thinks they're getting out of this except for flooding you with more ads between video recommendations at the cost of people actually watching anything and using the damn website.

Between removing the dislike counter, a defect search bar that shoves garbage down your throat, recommendations of decreasing quality on my end and shorts (which I hesitantly gave a try but ultimately lost all interest in because it remained mostly low effort content despite my efforts to train my algorithm), this is just another reason why I find myself spending more time enjoying other things lately.

Maybe I am just out of touch, but I smell another bubble bursting when I look at how enshittified all major web services are simultaneously becoming.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I guess I’d rather have it than not have it, but I don’t really understand how it would make YT unusable to me if I didn’t know how many other people viewed a video. How often are you using those numbers to make important decisions between videos about what to watch? I tend to go by the topic and subscribe to creators whose videos I like. Very occasionally I might be looking for a guide to an obscure level in an obscure game and there may be 3 similar looking videos about it, but one has 200 views and the others have single digits, and I agree in that situation it means something. But otherwise I just never pay attention to it. What do I care if 2000 or 200,000 people watched a video that looks interesting to me? Some creators I subscribe to have just a couple hundred followers. I don’t care.

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