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Yeah no shit you killed their fucking relatives
They did the same thing in 2016, blaming black people for turning out in lower numbers than the did in 2008/2012.
They're already doing the same thing to black men now and the election hasn't even happened yet!
Kind of like in 2020 there were talks about “machismo” when the “Latino” voters in Florida were voting for Trump. They like non-white people until we’re no longer useful.
Democrats: "Sorry browns, but your rights are just too unpopular. We'll never sell it to the normals. Besides, what are you going to do? Vote Republican?"
Some of them: "Yes I will!"
Democrats: 
There's a section in Machiavelli where he says you should make sure people fear you, and make them love you, but never ever fuck around and let them hate you. If they fear you they'll do as they're told, if they love you they'll help you. But if they hate you they'll destroy themselves just for a chance to spit in your face and there's no way to really defend youtself from people who have committed themselves to destroying you even at the cost of their life, health, wealth, whatever.
I think about that all. The. Time.
Me looking forward to seeing the dollar collapse and starving to death.
Right? It is not comfy.
"From hell's heart I stab at thee! For hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee!"
To be 100% real with you I have far worse things to say about Cuban and Venezuelan gusanos than "machismo" and they are the primary reason that Florida had their Hispanic vote go so far to the right. Yet the secondary reason is very clear, why vote blue when they aren't doing anything for you?
The party can't fail, it can only be failed.
The party can't fail, it can only be failed.
The party can't fail, it can only be failed.
The party can't fail, it can only be failed.
The party can't fail, it can only be failed.
The party can't fail, it can only be failed.
The party can't fail, it can only be failed.
I love how the straights constantly trot out queers to be their cheerleader.
They want to recruit LGBT people as foot soliders for their nonsense "clash of cultures/civilisations" war.
Democrats are owed your vote unless you are white. This is something that republicans sometimes bring up for their great replacement fever dreams, but dems sure act like that is really the case.
The only people that politicians are seemingly supposed to appeal to are white liberals.
The USA is getting pogroms,huh?
We're kind of seeing something equivalent to pogroms with the way anti-trans legislation is being used to force trans people to flee even if it doesn't pass.
Dems just call the cops, though. They don't like to dirty their hands.
I think a lot of Americans are ready to do direct violence, but are being held back by pretty strong social taboos against it. The cops jealously guard their own monopoly on violence and power. And when some chud does take matters into their own hands, it seems to surprise them when they get clapped by the justice system. The desired dynamic seems to be "you call the cops, and then the cops do the violence".
Yeah. I agree.
Minneapolis in the first days after Mr. Floyd was murdered would be a really good case study on, idk, permissions to do violence.
The pigs and the mayor were spreading misinformation about "outside agitators", the whole white Minnesotan world was losing it's damn mind, BIPOC people were throwing together adhoc neighborhood defense groups.
It all happened very, very, very fast. Like hours in some cases, a few days at most. But people threw together community defense groups. I was confronted and asked to explain myself moving around the city several times. Folks were out on their porches in the evenings, idk, kind of watching?
I've never seen so many normal people with guns. For a few months everyone was strapped. I had no idea BIPOC people were so heavily armed. There was serious we're not going down without a fight energy. I even met a kid who was standing guard in a protest camp with a katana. Dude could not have been seventeen. I remember crying after talking to him because he was just a kid, armed with a sword, protecting people from all the shit that could go down at any moment - vehicle attacks, shootings, anything.
And this was all while the cops in Minneapolis were going berserk, riding around suburban streets forty deep armed with machine guns and grenade launchers, firing paintballs and rubber munitions are random white people for being outside on their porches, doing drivebys with rubber bullets and gas grenades.
So like there was this constant threat of white supremacist attacks, police attacks, and a whole lot of other potential threats, and all these people who would otherwise never think of openly carrying a gun linked up with their neighbors and allies and started very seriously protecting their neighborhoods.
And that's just the side of it I saw from where I lived near the middle of it all. There must have been all kinds of white supremacist shit happening out in the very white, very reactionary suburbs. The mayor was trying, badly, to do divide and rule shit by convincing people "outside agigtators" were behind everything to get people to turn on their neighbors.
I haven't looked in to other people's accounts much bc i've been trying to shake off the trauma of it all for years, but there's got to be a huge amount of valuable information out there.
Is it my support for genociding Palestinians to blame?
No, the Muslims are homophobic. That must be it.
I'm kind of surprised that none of the BlueMAGA freaks have mentioned that prior to the War on Terror, there wasn't really a muslim constituency within the democratic party. Famously George W. Bush won the majority of muslim votes in 2000, because Al Gore had picked Joe Lieberman, and Lieberman was considered a dealbreaker among arabs precisely because he was too much of a zionist, while Bush just kept his mouth shut about that particular place.
I hope bluesky is just a bunch of freakish brunch perverts because it is fucking terrifying over there.
Racist fucks
Also conpletely lying about their views by saying they "dont care about Muslims in gaza" you know because they won't vote for the people currently funding and running cover for the genocide being done to them.
I'm sorry am I missing something? What brought the LGBT community into this?
Racism. Westerners think all Arabs hate gays
You're not missing anything, the whole argument is "they're Arabs, so if they're not voting Kamala it must mean they're radical anti-LGBT islamists"
In addition to the fact that Trump is running on anti-trans ("And you don't want trump to win!"), some dems like to accuse hamas of being homo/trans-phobic and use that as a justification for supporting Israel, who they falsely believe to be pro-lgbt
All non-cishetwhite are a monolith I guess
The desperate need to justify the unjustifiable
They should ask themselves why they're having to conduct a handwritten letter campaign to people who didn't vote last election but have voted democrat in the past 
In ten years when libs have full thrown trans people under the bus by "following the law" or whatever leads them there I look forward to posts saying "I can't believe the trans hate the LGB community so much they're willing to not vote democratic "
Stab in the back; we never could have lost, I must have been the homophobic Muslims
I seriously can't understand what the quoted tweet is supposed to mean. It seems like they're just randomly mashing ideas together? I tried to read the article, but the tweet was deleted, and the account you can see in the screenshot is a content firehose, so I couldn't find what this is about. Are they actually trying to apply the "Trump would kill n+1 Gazans" argument as a way to shame muslims, and then pinning that on homophobia based on nothing? Even for racist scratched liberals, this seems like incoherent nonsense. Am I missing something, or are they already panicking that badly
I believe what's happening (could be wrong) is that the tweeter sees that Muslims in Michigan are not voting for Harris and then the tweeter assumes that the reason Michigan Muslims aren't voting for Harris isn't the clear obvious reason (democrats are doing a genocide in Palestine), but instead the racist spectre reason (Muslims hate queer people, democrats like queer people, so Muslims won't vote democrat). It's mind-bogglingly stupid, as well as horrifically racist.
That part makes enough sense to me on its own, but what do they mean by not caring about “fellow Muslims”, and what connection are they trying to make between those ideas? It’s clear enough that it’s some racist bullshit, but I’m trying to figure out what it’s supposed to mean to other liberals, and it still just sounds like stringing words together. Maybe I’m expecting too much from liberals but I figured there would be something specific that prompted this.
Oh, I think that's just standard "Trump will do genocide worse (somehow), so you have to vote for the current genocider if you care about the people being genocided". I think. It doesn't make much sense I agree, but that's how I understood it.
If the libs on bluesky are representative it is what they believe. We must support their genocide to save the victims of their genocide from trumps genocide.
I think that's my mistake. I had assumed they understood that tool was only for white people to lecture other white people into voting for genocide. I shouldn't be surprised when some of them actually use it to feel morally superior to people who are directly affected.
It may be a reference to Trump's Muslim ban.
liberalism will show it's fangs to anything that shifts the status quo, no marginalized group will be safe from that
Modernity is the product of nascent capitalism and develops in close association with the worldwide expansion of the latter. The specific logic of the fundamental laws that govern the expansion of capitalism leads to a growing inequality and asymmetry on a global level. The societies at the peripheries are trapped in the impossibility of catching up with and becoming like the societies of the centers, today the triad of the United States, Europe, and Japan. In turn, this distortion affects modernity, as it exists in the capitalist world, so that it assumes a truncated form in the periphery. The culture of capitalism is formed and develops by internalizing the requirements of this asymmetric reality. Universalist claims are systematically combined with culturalist arguments, in this case Eurocentric ones, which invalidate the possible significance of the former.
Even if one accepts the premise as true (which is already highly doubtful and based on incorrect and bigoted culturalist arguments that all Muslims, as some kind of global monolith, hate LGBT people), why would anyone care what Democrats have to say about LGBT rights when they are prepared to accept the genocide, the crime of all crimes? Any claim to a "universal gay identity or movement, universal LGBT rights, universal humanitarianism/egalitarianism, etc" is immediately undermined by Eurocentric narratives around outdated "culturalist" arguments (the idea that cultural invariants persist through and beyond changes in material conditions, and that these cultural invariants are the main drivers of history, not material conditions) which values the lives of those in the first world/"modern" world above everyone else, to the point that the genocide of hundreds of thousands is acceptable to maintain such an order. This is what people don't understand when they argue one must support Democrats, is that the entire moral framework has been undermined. How can there be any international solidarity in such a situation? Supporting a genocidal administration/presidential candidate because they promise to maintain your rights does not just lead to the death of those who are the victims of genocide, it leads to the death of contemporary humanity itself. By refusing call into question the order of the world, we enter extremely dangerous territory:
To the extent that modern media places the aspiration for a better fate than that which is reserved for them in the system within the reach of all peoples, frustration mounts each day, making this contrast the most explosive contradiction of our world. Those who stubbornly refuse to call into question the system that fosters this contrast and frustration are simply burying their heads in the sand. The world of "economists," who administer our societies as they go about the business of "managing the world economy," is part of this artificial world. For the problem is not one of management, but resides in the objective necessity for a reform of the world system; failing this, the only way out is through the worst barbarity, the genocide of entire peoples or a worldwide conflagration. I, therefore, charge Eurocentrism with an inability to see anything other than the lives of those who are comfortably installed in the modern world. Modern culture claims to be founded on humanist universalism. In fact, in its Eurocentric version, it negates any such universalism. Eurocentrism has brought with it the destruction of peoples and civilizations that have resisted its spread. In this sense, Nazism, far from being an aberration, always remains a latent possibility, for it is only the extreme formulation of the theses of Eurocentrism. If there ever were an impasse, it is that in which Eurocentrism encloses contemporary humanity.
Good post. I'll add this to my pile of reading to do. But really, very good post.
I'm going to make a prediction here: in ~~2022~~ 2026, the Democrats will have decided that abortion is a states right issue. Much like Harris's current stance on gender affirming care.
2022? How is that a prediction?
Figures the one time traveler we get on this garbage forum is from the past.
They couldn't even be bothered to check the date 
I meant 2026, my bad