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Mashallah Lebanon has made us the most perfect condiment ever made. I am eating it with BBQ chips rn for the most intense vegan snack on the Earth.

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[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Toum is a valid condiment and is naturally vegan. To make mayo vegan you need to do weird things with unpalatable/indigestible waste products. But mayo isn't a very good sauce anyway.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can make homemade vegan mayo with whole ingredients but it doesn't keep more than a couple days

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What are the alternatives to aquafaba?

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What's wrong with aquafaba?

[–] booty@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's an untreated byproduct that you normally discard. Every culture that eats beans has discarded their bean rinse water; you don't really see recipes that have you cook the beans in their own rinse. Canned beans have been a thing for a century or more but there's a good reason why bean wastewater was only "discovered" by some random guy 10 years ago.

Saponins and other stuff in there are cool for industrial processes but you don't really want to ingest them.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every culture that eats beans has discarded their bean rinse water

Because there hasn't been a need to create an egg substitute that produces recipes that traditionally just used egg.

you don't really see recipes that have you cook the beans in their own rinse

I thought the soak rinse was always discarded, the aquafaba is from the cooking water (either in a can or the pot it's boiled in)

You can taste saponins, a quick google search suggests that there are definitely some people making extremely bitter aquafaba (i.e. likely with a high saponin quantity) but that's not supposed to be the outcome.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What do you think is making the foaming effect, that varies from bean to bean?

[–] Pili@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I saw a recipe where you just blend together oil, soy milk, lemon juice, and salt, and it makes a really good mayo.

It does in their videos at least, I was never able to make something close to it.

[–] Eco@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

you wanna use a food processor or a stick blender in my experience. also add some mustard to help it emulsify. most recipes are a slight variation on this one:

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

Add the oil as you blend, slowly until it gets a good consistency. I do this with garlic to make garlic bread at home

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

I think that would be acting as an emulsifier and thickener. I haven't made vegan mayo with it. I think the ingredients that I do use that would serve those roles are soy milk or a little starch.

[–] Pili@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I love mayo, I'm forced to eat my fries with ketchup since going vegan and that's very frustrating to me.

[–] roux@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Hidden Valley makes a plant-based ranch, if you wanna go that route. The vegan mayo I use is from a brand called Best Foods. I think it's just a regional rebranding of another mayo. It's ok but if you are recently coming over to the vegan lifestyle, it is noticeably off from real may. It works well as a spread of for an ingredient for a sauce though. I have a non-vegan friend that was raw dogging her chicken nuggets with it though so ymmv.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Spanish aioli is vegan (unlike the French who put eggs in it) but it wraps back around to just being a less acidic Toum.

[–] 21Gramsci@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I see your Toum and I raise Yemen's Zhug: another absolutely banging middle eastern condiment. It's easy af to make, you can decide how spicy you want it, and it rips. I put it on basically anything.

[–] bubbalu@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh wait I have had this before! Thank you for reminding me its existence.

[–] 21Gramsci@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Happy to be of service. Zhug by itself is a pretty strong sauce so you use small quantities of it, but you can make it into more of a dip by mixing it with about two parts of yoghurt (vegan yoghurt works fine too).

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Eh it's very raw garlicky but I guess that's fine if you're eating with BBQ chips

I would take muhammara or that beet tahini dip over it any day

[–] TheVelvetGentleman@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Eh it's very raw garlicky

You just explained why toum is in the pantheon of condiments.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

Raw garlic? Nah

I wonder what dipping roast garlic into a bit of toum and eating that would be like though

[–] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Toum is god tier, it should make you have the garlic taste in your mouth for like 2 days after you eat it otherwise it's trash.

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] bubbalu@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Lol. I think it would have been too potent for them.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

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[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

That looks like curiosity rather than fear.